01 Z28 vs GST Eclipse Turbo vs RSX turbo

[karpetcm]

Well this weekend most likely not 100% me and my friend are gonna head out and go for a nice drive. Usually we end up going up against each other, he got his car dialed in and its running excellent now. He put it on the dyno and is pushing 330 FWHP with 100 octane, i think 20 psi. Well most likley i will end up losing that match up but it gets worse, lol. We have another friend with a RSX S turbo which is just finishing up if all goes well he will most likley join us and he is gonna be pulling alot higher then 330 FWHP it will most likely be 420+ FWHP with 14 PSI with a cam and all bolt ons. I wish i atleast had LT's and re tune so im at my best but ohh well. So that one i know im owned, lol either way there great guys and i cant win them all but ill race them either way and ill keep you guys posted if it all goes down.

[Superluminal]

Well this weekend most likely not 100% me and my friend are gonna head out and go for a nice drive. Usually we end up going up against each other, he got his car dialed in and its running excellent now. He put it on the dyno and is pushing 330 FWHP with 100 octane, i think 20 psi. Well most likley i will end up losing that match up but it gets worse, lol. We have another friend with a RSX S turbo which is just finishing up if all goes well he will most likley join us and he is gonna be pulling alot higher then 330 FWHP it will most likely be 420+ FWHP with 14 PSI with a cam and all bolt ons. I wish i atleast had LT's and re tune so im at my best but ohh well. So that one i know im owned, lol either way there great guys and i cant win them all but ill race them either way and ill keep you guys posted if it all goes down.

The 330whp GST should be a decent race against you, if you're putting out around the same numbers. Keep in mind, if he's full interior, most Eclipses still weigh over 3000lbs.

The RSX is going to smoke you if you're bolt ons only. A friend of mine is in the 10s at 133mph with a K20 turbo Civic hatch at 12psi. So factor in the weight, and assuming it's a good setup it should be in the 11s. Like you said, can't win them all.

[karpetcm]

Thats true, rsx will definitly kill me no doubt, i need nitrous bad lol. Well either way we will race down the road again. Im gonna install my LT's, ORY, Nitrous 150 wet and re-tune. So will go up against each other down the road after this weekend and see what happens. I actually dont mind loosing to these guys they are hella cool and good friends.

[jlindelow]

Thats true, rsx will definitly kill me no doubt, i need nitrous bad lol. Well either way we will race down the road again. Im gonna install my LT's, ORY, Nitrous 150 wet and re-tune. So will go up against each other down the road after this weekend and see what happens. I actually dont mind loosing to these guys they are hella cool and good friends.

but wouldn't you feel alot better beating them? :yup:

[Superluminal]

but wouldn't you feel alot better beating them? :yup:

The cool part about having friends with cars like these is that you can do before and after races with new mods to see how much of a difference they made.

[karpetcm]

Always^^^ lol. Well funny thing was we went out a couple of times with my Z28 and he wouldnt really wanna race maybe because we had people in the car or what not who knows. He was pushing 260 FWHP and with that amount he was actually keeping up with my 01 M3 Vert 3781 LBS and 310 rwhp. So with 420 fwhp atleast against a 336 rwhp car it should be fairly easy but will go for another drive down the road when im done putting on my parts, hehe.

[karpetcm]

Another good point that you made Superluminal, on my 01 M3 before putting on headers, deleted cats and tune the eclipse, same one was pushing about 270 FWHP and was pulling on me by 6 cars till i was at 130mph. After putting on the parts on my M3 i was dead even at 7000-8100 rpms. He would still pull on me if i was below those rpms but dead even once i got to 7k. So its really interesting to go up against the same cars before and after mods, it lets you know that all those numbers that people claim that they get from just doing headers, tune or what not is really true in some cases.

[jlindelow]

The cool part about having friends with cars like these is that you can do before and after races with new mods to see how much of a difference they made.

yeah i was thinking the same thing. and then just keep modding until you come up and just surprise the hell out of them and get your f-body a kill:yup:

[Superluminal]

yeah i was thinking the same thing. and then just keep modding until you come up and just surprise the hell out of them and get your f-body a kill:yup:

....assuming they don't change anything as well. I've had that happen before too. "Oh yeah, I'm going to win this time.... hahahaha.... ughh.... wtf.... :sillyme: "

[jlindelow]

....assuming they don't change anything as well. I've had that happen before too. "Oh yeah, I'm going to win this time.... hahahaha.... ughh.... wtf.... :sillyme: "

haha thats gotta be the biggest letdown is when you spend all that money modding up your car, and they do when thing on top of everything they have, and beat you yet again :giveup: but dont give up, you'll get em :yup:

[karpetcm]

Just got his dyno number for the RSX type S he is pushing 465 FWHP and 340 TQ, 100 octane with a bad intercooler meaning too small for his set up. With a bigger intercooler he should be about 480 FWHP easily. Either way im shocked at those numbers those are excellent numbers and i give him major credit. On 91 octane he was at 435 FWHP and 302 TQ. So if he gets to 480 FWHP i dont stand a chance even with a 150 shot of nitrous lol. I think him being at 465 right now and weighing alot less then me is still way too much for my car to tackle and not even worth modding up and running any higher then 150 shot to just lose in the end either way.

I would need atleast 200 shot and thats a bit too much for a car im making payments on, if this was my other Z i use to have i wouldnt care soo much. If i can get to about 460-470 RWHP and 525 RWTQ with a 150 wet shot nitrous ill be fairly happy with that. I think the headers will get me to 355 RWHP and adding 150 shot from there should be close to my goal. Last time before going on the dyno i guess i was going to push about 305 RWHP and ended up 336 so im always a bit short on my guess game, lol.

[Superluminal]

Just got his dyno number for the RSX type S he is pushing 465 FWHP and 340 TQ, 100 octane with a bad intercooler meaning too small for his set up. With a bigger intercooler he should be about 480 FWHP easily. Either way im shocked at those numbers those are excellent numbers and i give him major credit. On 91 octane he was at 435 FWHP and 302 TQ. So if he gets to 480 FWHP i dont stand a chance even with a 150 shot of nitrous lol. I think him being at 465 right now and weighing alot less then me is still way too much for my car to tackle and not even worth modding up and running any higher then 150 shot to just lose in the end either way.

I would need atleast 200 shot and thats a bit too much for a car im making payments on, if this was my other Z i use to have i wouldnt care soo much. If i can get to about 460-470 RWHP and 525 RWTQ with a 150 wet shot nitrous ill be fairly happy with that. I think the headers will get me to 355 RWHP and adding 150 shot from there should be close to my goal. Last time before going on the dyno i guess i was going to push about 305 RWHP and ended up 336 so im always a bit short on my guess game, lol.

Yeah, you're going to get smoked. Try it anyway, no shame in losing.

[karpetcm]

Ok, the race went down with the RSX only the eclipse was having issues bad plugs. We raced 3 times starting in 3rd gear, i pulled one car at the end of 3rd and then as soon as i shifted i got pulled and he continued pulling at 115mph he was 1 1/2-2 cars in front. All races same outcome and he was as he was telling me 91 octane tune 435 FWHP. I also ended up racing a 03 Corvette Vert he had exhuast and he pulled on my a** for a few seconds so i told him try to keep up, i was pissed. I raced him to the top of my 4th hitting the reve limited shifting from 3rd to 4th bad but either way i had 2-2 1/2 cars in the end. Either way it was alot of fun and the RSX suffered big time from wheel spin so im sure it wouldve been much closer in 3rd for him if he had a little better traction.

[karpetcm]

I was just looking at my camera and had no idea the eclipse was recording the race, ill post the vid just as soon as i put it on photobucket if not on youtube. Ill edit it a bit and put some fly bys of my car and his with the end being the race or something dont know.

[c5z28]

Hurry on the vidz i'm bored as hell:D

[karpetcm]

Ok here is the vid, to be more specific again. Race started in my 3rd gear. The tire chirp you hear in the begining of the race is my car lost traction a bit. I only ran him to about 112 MPH basically almost top of my 4th gear mainly because thats fast enough, i stopped racing around the 10-11 second mark of the vid. At about 112mph in 4th gear he had about 2 cars on me. As soon as i began to shift into 4th i was owned he hit his peak as i was shifting and just went from there. Its a blazin fast car much respect, i didnt stand a chance against him. He wasnt running 100 octane he said he was on his normal tune which is 435 FWHP. The Eclipse in the vid is about 330 WHP and wasnt racing just trying to keep up somewhat due to bad plugs. Either way i post them wether i lose or win no shame in my game, lol. Ohh yes this is computer generated and recorded in germany somewhere in a city that i dont know how to spell.


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/karpetcm/th_Picture031.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/karpetcm/?action=view&current=Picture031.flv)

[NoscamaroSS]

I actually expected the RSX to run a little better than that. I believe with a 100 shot you would kill him everytime.

[hutch1999]

no shame in that loss

[Zinergy]

I actually expected the RSX to run a little better than that. I believe with a 100 shot you would kill him everytime.

+1000000000, that car with that much power should be trapping atleast 120mph. Good run

[Superluminal]

This is how a 400whp K20 should pull. This is my friends car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsg2HZskXbk&feature=channel

Looks like the one you raced has some tuning to do still. On the bright side, it's pretty funny when he's working a full turbo kit and then some, and you're bone stock. Nice job.

[Wesman]

You win some you lose some :yup:

I wouldn't worry about that turbo Honda. They usually end up with 4 holes in the block due to air seeking rods.

Pushing that kind of power on a open deck, 2 bolt block is a recipe for disaster. You can't even imagine the kind of stress levels inside that engine under boost, its phenominal. its only a matter of time before the internals get fatigued and something gives. If you've ever had a Honda engine apart before, you'd see what I'm talking about. I've seen bigger connecting rods in lawn tractors.

[Superluminal]

You win some you lose some :yup:

I wouldn't worry about that turbo Honda. They usually end up with 4 holes in the block due to air seeking rods.

Pushing that kind of power on a open deck, 2 bolt block is a recipe for disaster. You can't even imagine the kind of stress levels inside that engine under boost, its phenominal. its only a matter of time before the internals get fatigued and something gives. If you've ever had a Honda engine apart before, you'd see what I'm talking about. I've seen bigger connecting rods in lawn tractors.

I don't know what you're talking about Wesman, Honda rods are massive! .................

http://img293.echo.cx/img293/3537/dsc019936gl.jpg

[karpetcm]

Thanks guys for the comments, once he hit 4th he started pullin though so its a pretty fast car. I think with headers and my nitrous i should be ok with it. He really needs a bigger intercooler is what his tuner said. I think all he has as far as engine work is a turbo cam not sure if anything else has been done to the motor, ill ask him and find out. He was shocked and thought i was running nitrous or something keeping up and pulling half a car in 3rd and then hanged for a bit in 4th but got pulled eventually and backed out, speeds were getting to high for me. Its really a fast car once he gets good traction and its at full boost, bad thing is he has to be atleast in 4th gear and has to buy better tires.

On the first race we did me and him i didnt bother to post it, we started off in 2nd gear and he got walked on hard mainly because he lost traction. If i wouldve continued going into 3rd i wouldve had several cars on him but his car as we speak is not set up for drag racing and its not gonna grip well at all. Either way i got much respect for his ride, hopefully mine will be as fast as his one day. Ill try to do a little amature editing and post a vid of what happened that day, i didnt do the camera work so not the best shots.

[karpetcm]

Ok did the editing and here is the vid, just a fly by, 1st race which was in 2nd gear and the other race you guys have already seen.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/karpetcm/th_51b6f865.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/karpetcm/?action=view&current=51b6f865.pbr)

[c5z28]

good camera quality and races, but it looked like the camera guy couldn't keep the camera still.

[karpetcm]

Ya lol, it was the girlfriend of the eclipse owner.

[PAT-LS101]

You win some and lose some Those were some fast ass cars but look at it this way, At the end of the day your going home with a bad ass car that sounds heavenly and they still have a suped up car that sounds like a pissed off lawn mower :later:

[karpetcm]

Thanks PAT-LS101, well the amount of boost he's running is up there and although he says the car can handle it, its rare for me to find many that run that high of a boost. So hats off to him for doing a great job on the install and tuning. If i can get up to about 470 RWHP i will be happy with that even so i wont be able to beat every car i go up against and im ok with that since i love fast cars and anything thats faster then me i got much respect for especially a 4 cylinder. Even the eclipse is hella fast in the vid, too bad he didnt want to race but he had good reasons and maybe next time. Thanks guys for the comments, im on Camaroz28.com and the kids there are way too immature glad i found this site.

[Zinergy]

Thanks PAT-LS101, well the amount of boost he's running is up there and although he says the car can handle it, its rare for me to find many that run that high of a boost. So hats off to him for doing a great job on the install and tuning. If i can get up to about 470 RWHP i will be happy with that even so i wont be able to beat every car i go up against and im ok with that since i love fast cars and anything thats faster then me i got much respect for especially a 4 cylinder. Even the eclipse is hella fast in the vid, too bad he didnt want to race but he had good reasons and maybe next time. Thanks guys for the comments, im on Camaroz28.com and the kids there are way too immature glad i found this site.

They are more immature than us? Thats impressive