99 mustang gt

[2-bowties&abird]

not a kill.....but definately killed any interpretation i had of a n/a mustang killing my ws6. to cut to the chase....mustangs are really slow. i had no idea of how slow because i havent drove a ford in probably 10 years untill this weekend my aunt told me to go ahead and take her 99 mustang gt for a spin. i used to have a 2000 pontiac bonneville ssei that i bet would beat the snot out of that poor little thing. at first i was kind of scared to drive it cuz im thinking damn what if this thing feels like it could give me a little competition. well that was soon over with needless to say. so if all that ford is giving to the new gt's is 45 more horses they have a long way to go to catch up with gm. has anyone else done this experiment? by the way the handling felt really sloppy too.

[big hammer]

2v stangs are funny. the newer 3v's are getting better.

[karpetcm]

Ive driven 4 of the older gen mustang i think from 99-04. Everytime i would drive one it was a disaster and would disappoint me big time. Believe it or not i really wanted to buy a mustang on a couple of occasions but all it takes is test driving both cars and any doubt about the camaro or T/A goes out the window and is the clear winner. The mustang feels like it has a good amount of torque on innitial tap of the gas pedal and then falls flat on its face in power. The auto is much worse and always seems to be out of its powerband doesnt like to be driven hard at all. The newer Gen stangs i do admit are alot better and they usually pull about 260rwhp 2005+ stangs and they will do the job as far as feeling fast but it still really needs a 6speed the gearing feels too wide to me when it hit 3rd gear and felt worse going into 4th and 5th. Either way they have a reason as to why they appeal to soo many people but i will say this most of the people who buy them hardly ever test drove a camaro back in those days 93-02 and i know, thats usually what i end up asking mostly every mustang owner. Granted you will have the few that have and have owned a LS1 or LT1 and went to a mustang either way.

[Kaotic_ws6]

not a kill.....but definately killed any interpretation i had of a n/a mustang killing my ws6. to cut to the chase....mustangs are really slow. i had no idea of how slow because i havent drove a ford in probably 10 years untill this weekend my aunt told me to go ahead and take her 99 mustang gt for a spin. i used to have a 2000 pontiac bonneville ssei that i bet would beat the snot out of that poor little thing. at first i was kind of scared to drive it cuz im thinking damn what if this thing feels like it could give me a little competition. well that was soon over with needless to say. so if all that ford is giving to the new gt's is 45 more horses they have a long way to go to catch up with gm. has anyone else done this experiment? by the way the handling felt really sloppy too.

yea they are slow.. ive driven them and ridin in plenty and they are a dissapointment, one of my friends used to have a full bolt on/ cammed gt with 4.10s and a 5 speed and he would lose to my buddys stock m6 ws6

[karpetcm]

Id agree ^^^, ive seen a cammed and full bolt on 02 Gt only pull 259 rwhp(cant remember cam specs) granted they start about 220rwhp so getting them to LS1 rwhp numbers is gonna be hard. I have to admit the Mach 1 mustangs aint too bad with full bolt ons they are fairly quick and do very well with stock LS1's.

[Kaotic_ws6]

Id agree ^^^, ive seen a cammed and full bolt on 02 Gt only pull 259 rwhp(cant remember cam specs) granted they start about 220rwhp so getting them to LS1 rwhp numbers is gonna be hard. I have to admit the Mach 1 mustangs aint too bad with full bolt ons they are fairly quick and do very well with stock LS1's.

yea.. better motor tho..:yup:

[Chris Arnold]

I'm a mustang fan in general, but I just can't bring myself to buy a new one. The Terminators have potential for future purchase, and honestly they're more interesting than the GT500. But at least 540 hp, decent cornering ability, and huge modification potential with optional factory hp increases makes the GT500 the sickest muscle/pony car on the road today. Ford definitely has the formula right with that car. I just prefer the terminators because they're lighter, still have huge performance potential, and they're significantly cheaper.

However, no mustang GT since '95 is of any interest to me whatsoever. '95s and earlier have the 5.0s which are a breeze to modify for me, now. But in regard to the new GTs, I just refuse to own a performance V8 car that makes as much power as most of the performance V6s (less than some) on the market and the turbo 4 cylinders. Granted, my vette only makes 45 hp more than the GT, but the car is considerably lighter than the new mustangs and its a different segment, too.

Especially with the new competition on the block, Ford really should step up their game. The new Mustang GTs should come with at least 350 hp, which would put them on par with the LS1 vettes and F-bodies. 400 would be excellent, and anything more would be icing on the cake, though I realize that the GT can't go too much higher before it starts dragging sales away from the GT500s. Though I refrain from holding my breath, if Ford goes to the 400hp 5.0L modular, I would be pretty excited about a mustang GT again.

Chris

[BLKCLOUD]

....assuming it doesn't also becoming a 3900 lb tank like the 2010 Camaro....

[RedSmokey]

I'm a mustang fan in general, but I just can't bring myself to buy a new one. The Terminators have potential for future purchase, and honestly they're more interesting than the GT500. But at least 540 hp, decent cornering ability, and huge modification potential with optional factory hp increases makes the GT500 the sickest muscle/pony car on the road today. Ford definitely has the formula right with that car. I just prefer the terminators because they're lighter, still have huge performance potential, and they're significantly cheaper.

However, no mustang GT since '95 is of any interest to me whatsoever. '95s and earlier have the 5.0s which are a breeze to modify for me, now. But in regard to the new GTs, I just refuse to own a performance V8 car that makes as much power as most of the performance V6s (less than some) on the market and the turbo 4 cylinders. Granted, my vette only makes 45 hp more than the GT, but the car is considerably lighter than the new mustangs and its a different segment, too.

Especially with the new competition on the block, Ford really should step up their game. The new Mustang GTs should come with at least 350 hp, which would put them on par with the LS1 vettes and F-bodies. 400 would be excellent, and anything more would be icing on the cake, though I realize that the GT can't go too much higher before it starts dragging sales away from the GT500s. Though I refrain from holding my breath, if Ford goes to the 400hp 5.0L modular, I would be pretty excited about a mustang GT again.

Chris

What about a ZR1?

[big hammer]

What about a ZR1?

the zr1's performance and price seem to scream supercar, while the price of the gt500 is a little high to be called a muscle car\pony car IMO

[RedSmokey]

isnt the ZR1 around $100k? Whats the gt500 cost?

[hoss 2000 z-28]

http://autos.yahoo.com/2010_ford_shelby_gt500/

The '10 MSRP's for $46,325 - $51,325

[2000LS1Bird]

I have never been a big fan of the Mustangs, but in today's world I see them as kind of a brother amidst the sea of rice that has flooded our streets.

There is a large aftermarket for the last gen Mustang that you have posted your doubts about. With gears, and bolt ons, those cars can go comfortably into the 13s and challenge stock LS1s in short stoplight encounters.

When I see someone driving one of those, I feel as though I at least see someone who is grounded properly. The Mach 1 edition, with a shaker hood is a particularly nice model from that generation.

When I see a Honda with a fart can, or a Toyota Celica with stickers all over it, I think, 'man, that kid has issues.'

[mogs01gt]

duh! We always knew mustangs are slow!!

[wooddaniel]

The Auto 99-04 GT's were anemic. I owned a 99 GT with the 5 speed and turned consistent 14.2-14.3@98-99MPH 1/4 times stock. Not too bad for the money, and it was a nice shifting fun car to drive. Does not even compare to an LS1, but I still had fun with it.

[Chris Arnold]

What about a ZR1?

As mentioned, it's not a pony or muscle car.

That said, I wonder how the ZR1 would stack up against a 725hp Shelby Super Snake in a drag race.

Chris

[big hammer]

As mentioned, it's not a pony or muscle car.

That said, I wonder how the ZR1 would stack up against a 725hp Shelby Super Snake in a drag race.

Chris

we'll see once lingenfelter gets ahold of one.

[karpetcm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz3rfC2CAs4

That one from hennessey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb3ExW4BhKQ

This one is from Lingenfelter

[Zinergy]

As mentioned, it's not a pony or muscle car.

That said, I wonder how the ZR1 would stack up against a 725hp Shelby Super Snake in a drag race.

Chris

Proabably pretty good since the vette weighs 1000lbs less.

[Chris Arnold]

Proabably pretty good since the vette weighs 1000lbs less.

Maybe so. What are ZR1s running, anyway?

[big hammer]

Maybe so. What are ZR1s running, anyway?

i think motortrend got an 11.2 out of it? so any competent driver would get in the 10's.

[Chris Arnold]

Any idea what the trap speed was?

NVM, I found it. 130.5 mph

[99 Kobra]

Proabably pretty good since the vette weighs 1000lbs less.

The Shelby weighs about 3,900 and the ZR-1 weighs about 3,350.

[Zinergy]

Most people who ru nthe supersnake on the stock tires cant get into the 11s, and trap around 120, and the lowest time i have seen is a 11.55 @ 124mph. Perhaps the drivers suck but a trap speed of 124 is gonna look silly against the 132mph some drivers have already gotten out of the zr-1. And all the 0-60 times so far recorded on the supersnake say 4.5-4.8. The corvette has been run as low as 3.3 already with stock specs. Over 1 second faster to 60 is painful to see from the mustang owners view. I have driven corvettes( not the zr-1 but ls1, c5 z06 and c6s) for cars with IRS they are amazingly nice at launching.

[Chris Arnold]

I don't think you're giving the SS enough credit. No car with over 700 hp is only going to be trapping 124. With around 400 rwhp, my mustang ran 118. The Shelby's have gone at least 134 mph (MM&FF). So, I think it's gonna make for a very interesting race. Neither car is going to look silly.

Chris

[Superluminal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz3rfC2CAs4

That one from hennessey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb3ExW4BhKQ

This one is from Lingenfelter

I was kind of disappointed with this. I mean, you can get a bone stock ZR1 into the 10s with just tires. Hell, there have been people that have gotten stock C6 ZO6s into the 10s with just tires. Motortrend did an 11.2@130something mph. That guy Ranger needs to get his hands on one, he'd probably hit 10s on factory tires with it.

Regardless, don't know why you some of you are comparing ZR1 to GT500. They are completely different classes. The GT500 I would put in the same class as a ZO6. The ZR1 is almost supercar status, with supercar performance.

[Kaotic_ws6]

I was kind of disappointed with this. I mean, you can get a bone stock ZR1 into the 10s with just tires. Hell, there have been people that have gotten stock C6 ZO6s into the 10s with just tires. Motortrend did an 11.2@130something mph. That guy Ranger needs to get his hands on one, he'd probably hit 10s on factory tires with it.

Regardless, don't know why you some of you are comparing ZR1 to GT500. They are completely different classes. The GT500 I would put in the same class as a ZO6. The ZR1 is almost supercar status, with supercar performance.

+1:right:

[BLKCLOUD]

I wouldn't put the GT500 anywhere near the same class as the Z06. Beyond 4 wheels and a similar factory power rating, they are VERY different cars. And the Z06 is much more capable at everything except the number of people it can carry.

[cobra443]

Stock/mild bolt on mustangs are slow.. thats pretty well know... Its the overwhelming aftermarket world that keep performance people in the mustangs. I defiently didnt buy mine because it was fast.. it looks awesome and I can make it perform the way I want it to. And now when ride in my friends t/a's and camaro's... they feel slow.