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cobrakiller99
03-21-2009, 10:11 PM
So i finally got a race with a srt8 dodge challenger. i have a a4 ws6 with an exhaust, how do you guys think ill fare against it from a dig and a roll? I just have a exhaust right now hes a brand new driver that just got his license. The challenger is all stock. thanks, it will help me out alot to see what you guys think.
onetroubledguy
03-21-2009, 10:15 PM
So i finally got a race with a srt8 dodge challenger. i have a a4 ws6 with an exhaust, how do you guys think ill fare against it from a dig and a roll? I just have a exhaust right now hes a brand new driver that just got his license. The challenger is all stock. thanks, it will help me out alot to see what you guys think.
Need you say more? :D
KahanaReef
03-21-2009, 10:16 PM
That's what I was thinking too.
Y2KPewterSS
03-21-2009, 10:19 PM
My typical answer to these threads, run him and then tell us the results.
A brand new driver with a brand new Challenger? What is he gonna tell daddy when he wraps it around a tree cuz he was street racing it?
KahanaReef
03-21-2009, 10:24 PM
My typical answer to these threads, run him and then tell us the results.
A brand new driver with a brand new Challenger? What is he gonna tell daddy when he wraps it around a tree cuz he was street racing it?
:yup: Not a good thing.
Smittro
03-21-2009, 11:10 PM
If I was young and wrecked my Dads brand new Challenger I dont think I'd ever go home again...LOL:nilly:
Spikito
03-21-2009, 11:26 PM
yeah, i highly doubt hell run it past about 4k rpms, and from a dig i highly doubt hed launch it....Im pretty sure thats a stout ass car, but not the driver
doozjamann
03-22-2009, 06:23 AM
My typical answer to these threads, run him and then tell us the results.
What is he gonna tell daddy when he wraps it around a tree cuz he was street racing it?
A deer ran out is front of me.
9T8W66
03-22-2009, 07:06 AM
Make sure you tell him when the street lights come on he has to take daddies car home.
cammed goat
03-22-2009, 08:05 AM
My typical answer to these threads, run him and then tell us the results.
A brand new driver with a brand new Challenger? What is he gonna tell daddy when he wraps it around a tree cuz he was street racing it?
My thoughts exactly.
purplebat66
03-22-2009, 08:19 AM
i raced one and beat it by 2 cars from a roll
zmg00camaross
03-22-2009, 08:33 AM
challenger is a heavy turd looks good i use to own a 71 challenger and it was the same weight and it was a piece of metal. but i still like them, run them.
RedVertTA
03-22-2009, 08:40 AM
I wouldn't be so quick to judge a young driver like that. Just because someone has a new license doesn't mean they're new to racing.
cobrakiller99
03-22-2009, 09:08 AM
i think he is new to racing, but its an automatic too. so its pretty easy for him to drive it. so you guys think ill win?
dklowrider
03-22-2009, 09:49 AM
i think he is new to racing, but its an automatic too. so its pretty easy for him to drive it. so you guys think ill win? yes you will win! or maybe you wont! now go race him and you tell us.
cobrakiller99
03-22-2009, 10:28 AM
yes you will win! or maybe you wont! now go race him and you tell us.
haha it will happen either next friday or saturday. i just like to have an idea on whats going to happen.
onetroubledguy
03-22-2009, 10:32 AM
haha it will happen either next friday or saturday. i just like to have an idea on whats going to happen.
I will give you a hint. The charger will get served a taillight sandwich! ;)
cobrakiller99
03-22-2009, 10:49 AM
I will give you a hint. The charger will get served a taillight sandwich! ;)
haha alright good.
RedVertTA
03-22-2009, 01:35 PM
This is not the first thread you've opened up asking if you'd win against this car or that car. Do you only accept challenges you know you can win?
doozjamann
03-22-2009, 02:34 PM
This is not the first thread you've opened up asking if you'd win against this car or that car. Do you only accept challenges you know you can win?
He's young, let him build up his win column first. No one like to start out 0-2
RedVertTA
03-22-2009, 03:39 PM
He's young, let him build up his win column first. No one like to start out 0-2
I'm the same age.
1998 T/A
03-22-2009, 03:40 PM
i raced a few challengers and its a pretty fair game...ya the hp numbers are better than ours may be but that thing weighs a lot.
cobrakiller99
03-22-2009, 04:26 PM
This is not the first thread you've opened up asking if you'd win against this car or that car. Do you only accept challenges you know you can win?
its a long story about this car. i wanna win bad.
cobrakiller99
03-22-2009, 04:30 PM
and i challenged him.
and i challenged him.
Well then race him!
Bang it hard out of the gate and do not look back... race Ur car and
make him man up or puss out. Once U get a few cars on him call it good!
Have fun and try to be safe!
cobrakiller99
03-22-2009, 05:39 PM
Well then race him!
Bang it hard out of the gate and do not look back... race Ur car and
make him man up or puss out. Once U get a few cars on him call it good!
Have fun and try to be safe!
thank you. all of you will be informed on what happens.
Mustang Killa
04-11-2009, 01:51 AM
I already raced one..from about a 5-10 mile role, we both made a right hand turn on to a realllly long multi lane on ramp to the hwy...needless to say I was able to see what his car looks like from my passenger and rearview mirrors..but they look nice lol....
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n154/jbleachhead/charger.jpg
big hammer
04-11-2009, 05:53 AM
make sure you get it on video!
cobrakiller99
04-11-2009, 01:53 PM
ohh i will. so far my friend hasnt been able to get a hold of him to race.
02ceta
04-11-2009, 08:29 PM
it would be a hands down race to the one driving a manual but with both automatics he might get you off the line but there is no top end in any Dodge.
my boss drives a rumble bee truck and he's done a lot under his hood while mine is pretty much stock and even with a manual he'll get a car or two on me off the line but about 2 gears later he looks like he slamed on the brakes it just depends on how long of a track you got. And if i was you id race him at a drag strip cause it sounds like neither one of you two has much racing exp. (no offence) that will help keep you guys from a ticket or wrecking.
Plus its a lot easier to tell dad when it was off the street
cobrakiller99
04-11-2009, 09:53 PM
it would be a hands down race to the one driving a manual but with both automatics he might get you off the line but there is no top end in any Dodge.
my boss drives a rumble bee truck and he's done a lot under his hood while mine is pretty much stock and even with a manual he'll get a car or two on me off the line but about 2 gears later he looks like he slamed on the brakes it just depends on how long of a track you got. And if i was you id race him at a drag strip cause it sounds like neither one of you two has much racing exp. (no offence) that will help keep you guys from a ticket or wrecking.
Plus its a lot easier to tell dad when it was off the street
no offense taken, but i got tons of racing experience. i dont think he can say the same.
screaminbird
04-13-2009, 06:15 AM
A deer ran out is front of me.
yah me and my friend tried that excuse when we flipped his infinity and rolled it twice into a corn field
excuse works everytime lmao
Itllrun
04-14-2009, 04:47 PM
Your going to lose if you run long enough...... My friend has just an R/T auto and him and I are neck and neck. Now I have headers and take him barely but at the track this year hes going 13.2's all day and couple 13.10's just with an R/T....... SRT 8 brings on a whole new beast. Quick hint (there dogs off the line) Run him from a stop light. 20's dont hook for shit....
Jeff
purplebat66
04-14-2009, 05:04 PM
once again our cars run best at the top end and should be able to take him
cobrakiller99
04-14-2009, 06:11 PM
thank you guys for all the info, i cant wait for it to happen.
Retired Cop
04-14-2009, 06:16 PM
Today a Challenger started to follow me in traffic. I wish we were on the interstate, It would have time to get funky !!
Retired Cop
04-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Today a Challenger started to follow me in traffic. I wish we were on the interstate, It would have time to get funky !!
Correction, It would have been time to get Funky !!
david_viny
04-14-2009, 10:29 PM
Car and Driver got the Challenger SRT8 to 13.3 at 108 mph in the 1/4 mile. So just numbers wise it looks like its going to be really close. But magazine #'s aren't everything, race em!
RonBurgandy
04-15-2009, 03:53 AM
I raced one yesterday and u might wanna give ur buddy a length or 2. Like someone said before its a turd. from a dig i trashed him and from a roll it was kinda close but when i got to forth it was over. :true: have fun pissin him off.
allbaugh_04
04-15-2009, 06:29 AM
you fail!!! you said friday or saturday on the 22nd...wtf. i hate these kind of threads
That's like someone saying they beat a GT40 with their H/C LS1 and they "just gotta figure out how to post he video" or a twin turbo ls1 "pulled a liter bike"...."just gotta post the video"
cobrakiller99
04-15-2009, 09:26 AM
you fail!!! you said friday or saturday on the 22nd...wtf. i hate these kind of threads
That's like someone saying they beat a GT40 with their H/C LS1 and they "just gotta figure out how to post he video" or a twin turbo ls1 "pulled a liter bike"...."just gotta post the video"
hes been ditchin my buddy who is trying to set it up.
allbaugh_04
04-15-2009, 10:19 AM
ok....waiting
:squint:
Itllrun
04-16-2009, 03:41 PM
Car and Driver got the Challenger SRT8 to 13.3 at 108 mph in the 1/4 mile. So just numbers wise it looks like its going to be really close. But magazine #'s aren't everything, race em!
Car and drivers numbers aren't accurate..... Believe me I'd love to see you take him. I was at Byron IL's dragstrip last saturday and there was a black one there that still had new plates on it and was stock cause I talked to him and it was running 12.7's all day. Hard to get those 20's to hook so a street race could be another story.
blackmetal
04-16-2009, 09:40 PM
I was at a Dodge dealership a few weeks ago and there were a couple of kids looking at Challengers and they pulled up in a 00 WS6 I tell the dude that his T/A could probably take the Challenger, he says "yeah Ive already raced one" I ask him how bad it was and he said he beat him by 1.5-2 lengths.
big hammer
04-17-2009, 06:54 AM
Car and drivers numbers aren't accurate..... Believe me I'd love to see you take him. I was at Byron IL's dragstrip last saturday and there was a black one there that still had new plates on it and was stock cause I talked to him and it was running 12.7's all day. Hard to get those 20's to hook so a street race could be another story.
12.7's stock?? at what speeds? i know car and driver has weak drivers, and they only got 13.8 out of the srt8. however the kicker is they only managed to pull a 103 trap speed. regardless of how you drive, pretty near impossible to run a 12.7 with a 103ish trap on street tires.
clg82
04-18-2009, 02:35 PM
Car and drivers numbers aren't accurate..... Believe me I'd love to see you take him. I was at Byron IL's dragstrip last saturday and there was a black one there that still had new plates on it and was stock cause I talked to him and it was running 12.7's all day. Hard to get those 20's to hook so a street race could be another story.
You're not very accurate either........there is no way those TANKS can run 12.7 without being heavly modified!!!:true:
StuntmanMike
04-18-2009, 05:29 PM
Popular Mechanics is doing a Challenger R/T project car.
Bone stock, they got 0-60 in 4.95, and a 13.55 @ 103.65mph 1/4 mile time.
With a full exhaust, CAI, and 3.55's, they got 12.9 @ 110.5mph.
With a 75hp shot of N20 they got 12.4 @ 114.0 mph.
It kind of an interesting project, in addition to the engine, they're also doing suspension and brake mods, and custom body work. After that, they plan on installing an electric powertrain in it, so in addtion to the Hemi performance, it'll have the capability to run on electric around town for zero emissions.
allbaugh_04
04-18-2009, 05:58 PM
3.5 mph gain on a 75 shot?
SOCAL WS6
04-18-2009, 08:02 PM
Popular Mechanics is doing a Challenger R/T project car.
Bone stock, they got 0-60 in 4.95, and a 13.55 @ 103.65mph 1/4 mile time.
With a full exhaust, CAI, and 3.55's, they got 12.9 @ 110.5mph.
With a 75hp shot of N20 they got 12.4 @ 114.0 mph.
It kind of an interesting project, in addition to the engine, they're also doing suspension and brake mods, and custom body work. After that, they plan on installing an electric powertrain in it, so in addtion to the Hemi performance, it'll have the capability to run on electric around town for zero emissions.
Kinda makes you wanna hug a tree!:wtf:
Frankie3521
04-18-2009, 09:41 PM
You're not very accurate either........there is no way those TANKS can run 12.7 without being heavly modified!!!:true:
WTF? There have been bone stock SRT8 Auto Chargers run 12.8...I'm sure a Manual SRT8 Chally with a good driver could hit 12.7ish bone stock...do your homework before making such an accusation. A tune, exhaust and intake and it's a low-mid 12 car.
Frankie3521
04-18-2009, 09:44 PM
it would be a hands down race to the one driving a manual but with both automatics he might get you off the line but there is no top end in any Dodge.
my boss drives a rumble bee truck and he's done a lot under his hood while mine is pretty much stock and even with a manual he'll get a car or two on me off the line but about 2 gears later he looks like he slamed on the brakes it just depends on how long of a track you got. And if i was you id race him at a drag strip cause it sounds like neither one of you two has much racing exp. (no offence) that will help keep you guys from a ticket or wrecking.
Plus its a lot easier to tell dad when it was off the street
Well, probably because a rumble bee is a truck. Trucks aren't exactly known to pull well on the top end...it's called aerodynamics. The SRT8 and R/T lines are actually known for having really good top end. A SRT8 will walk a WS6 all day, a 6spd R/T will too. Not trying to be a dodge fanboy, but I have lots of information on the Mustangs, LX Chrysler Line, and F-Bodys.
doozjamann
04-19-2009, 06:00 AM
Well, probably because a rumble bee is a truck. Trucks aren't exactly known to pull well on the top end...it's called aerodynamics. The SRT8 and R/T lines are actually known for having really good top end. A SRT8 will walk a WS6 all day, a 6spd R/T will too. Not trying to be a dodge fanboy, but I have lots of information on the Mustangs, LX Chrysler Line, and F-Bodys.
I'm guessing a lot of bad information. Not trying to start a fight, but LS1's are walking that dog and kicking that cat on RT's, and SRT-8's all day.
allbaugh_04
04-19-2009, 10:06 AM
WTF? There have been bone stock SRT8 Auto Chargers run 12.8...I'm sure a Manual SRT8 Chally with a good driver could hit 12.7ish bone stock...do your homework before making such an accusation. A tune, exhaust and intake and it's a low-mid 12 car.
show some proof
big hammer
04-19-2009, 10:13 AM
show some proof
does dragtimes.com count? :lol:
willys srt8
04-19-2009, 02:54 PM
WTF? There have been bone stock SRT8 Auto Chargers run 12.8...I'm sure a Manual SRT8 Chally with a good driver could hit 12.7ish bone stock...do your homework before making such an accusation. A tune, exhaust and intake and it's a low-mid 12 car.
+1 although a 12.7 might be possible it sure won't be the norm
http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/timeslips.php?
Redegal
04-20-2009, 07:11 PM
I was at the drag strip Friday and ran with an SRT8. It only ran a 13.9@102. I gotta believe the stock trap speed is around 103 at best. I don't how you pull off a 12.7 bone stock with that kind of trap speed.
Frankie3521
04-20-2009, 07:25 PM
I'm guessing a lot of bad information. Not trying to start a fight, but LS1's are walking that dog and kicking that cat on RT's, and SRT-8's all day.
Maybe on the Charger R/T's of the previous generation, but the new R/T's are dynoing about 40rwhp over the old HEMI's and with the 6spd they move out a lot better. A SRT8 won't lose to a LS1 F-Body with equal drivers. A R/T will.
I have personally seen 12.9's out of bone stock SRT8's, with my own eyes. A SRT8 will not only usually beat a LS1 in a 1/4 mile race, it will walk away from one on a highway roll. The extra weight is there, but the 75hp deficit makes up for it pretty well. Look around enough, you will see quite a few stock SRT8 Challys running high 12's. There have been a few stock 6spd Chally R/T's running around 13.3, and those are short about 50hp from the SRT8. It's not bad information at all, I know from personal experience.
Frankie3521
04-20-2009, 07:25 PM
I was at the drag strip Friday and ran with an SRT8. It only ran a 13.9@102. I gotta believe the stock trap speed is around 103 at best. I don't how you pull off a 12.7 bone stock with that kind of trap speed.
Even magazines pull 108+ out of SRT8's...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0809_2009_dodge_challenger_testing/2009_dodge_challenger_srt8_manual.html
Motor Trend pulls a 13.1 @ 108..you guys know Motor Trend doesn't pull the best times either..
big hammer
04-20-2009, 08:10 PM
Even magazines pull 108+ out of SRT8's...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0809_2009_dodge_challenger_testing/2009_dodge_challenger_srt8_manual.html
Motor Trend pulls a 13.1 @ 108..you guys know Motor Trend doesn't pull the best times either..
edmunds also got a 13.8 @ 103 out of the charger--- something is up with these cars. some seem to fly and some seem awful.
Redegal
04-21-2009, 03:03 AM
Even magazines pull 108+ out of SRT8's...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0809_2009_dodge_challenger_testing/2009_dodge_challenger_srt8_manual.html
Motor Trend pulls a 13.1 @ 108..you guys know Motor Trend doesn't pull the best times either..
O.K. I'll beleive it when I see it. The car at the track was brand new and I think he was letting his wife drive it who might not have been familiar with the car but trap speeds don't usually lie.
I was looking at the Challenger R/T. A dealer near me is getting a balck one in with the tremec M6. The magazines claim it's a mid 13 second car. I might be intertested if it was but after seeing that SRT run it kind of took the wind out of my sails as far as buying one. I think I would rather look for a low mileage LS1 F body at this point. Used of course but thousands of $$ cheaper and faster.
Turrry
04-21-2009, 09:26 AM
I have had...well, I can't tell you HOW many Challenger R/T guys "woof" me, rev me, etc. and NONE of them have been in a situation where I could have run them...I can't WAIT till I get the chance to finally spank one of these faggots. They are worse than the local V6 Fbody and mustang guys.
allbaugh_04
04-21-2009, 12:22 PM
lol...i'd like to spank em too
willys srt8
04-21-2009, 03:18 PM
mag and bench racing. :suicide:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html
2007 Chrysler 300C SRT-8 4.7 0-60, 13.2@109 (C&D June 05)
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 4.7 0-60, 13.0 (R&T July '08)
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 4.8 0-60,13.2 (C&D Dec '07)
2005 Dodge Charger R/T 5.6 0-60, 14.2 (R&T Aug '05)
2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 4.9 0-60, 13.3@108.2 (R&T Dec.'05)
2008 Dodge Charger SRT-8 4.8 0-60, 13.2@108 (C&D Dec 07)
2005 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD 5.9 0-60, 14.5 (C&D Aug '05)
2005 Dodge Magnum SRT8 5.1 0-60, 13.6 (C&D Sept '05)
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 0-60, 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 0-60, 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 0-60, 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 0-60, 13.6
1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 0-60, 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.1 0-60, 14.7
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.3 0-60, 14.8
1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 0-60, 14.1
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 0-60, 13.9
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 0-60, 15.1
1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 0-60, 14.0
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 0-60, 14.3
1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.8l 7.2 0-60, 15.5 (C&D Jun '97)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.3 0-60, 13.9 (C&D Jun '98)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 0-60, 13.4
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 0-60, 13.4
2004 Pontiac GTO LS1 5.3 0-60, 13.8
2005 Pontiac GTO LS2 5.2 0-60, 13.7@103.9 w/MT (R&T Dec 05)
2005 Pontiac GTO V8 w/6 Spd 4.8 0-60, 13.3 (C&D Jan '05)
and the list goes on. just line up and be done with it. GET IT ON VID seeing is believing
nurmikko22
04-21-2009, 05:58 PM
I have a 2002 M6 trans am with lid and muffler and I ran a challenger r/t auto from a dig and from a roll. When we went from a dig we only went to 60 mph but by that time my back bumper was at his front bumper (I also spun on the take off). We then had to slow for traffic, but then lined up again and did a 50-110 run. As soon we started, I was walking away from him no problem and when I let off around 110, I was easily 2-3 cars ahead of him. I would think that the SRT-8 would pretty much be a drivers race.
1 RedHot TransAm
04-21-2009, 08:25 PM
I have a 2002 M6 trans am with lid and muffler and I ran a challenger r/t auto from a dig and from a roll. When we went from a dig we only went to 60 mph but by that time my back bumper was at his front bumper (I also spun on the take off). We then had to slow for traffic, but then lined up again and did a 50-110 run. As soon we started, I was walking away from him no problem and when I let off around 110, I was easily 2-3 cars ahead of him. I would think that the SRT-8 would pretty much be a drivers race.
+1 SRT8 is a drivers race, I watched my buddy run one in a 02 SS basically stock, lid, catback
cobrakiller99
04-22-2009, 12:05 PM
i need to get this kid to come out of his house and race me.
hutch1999
04-22-2009, 02:17 PM
Mopars are kind of like plus size women, they can look pretty and get the job done, but in the end they are still to damn heavy.
dude i raced one not long ago....pfft didnt have anything special. i thing you'll take it easly
allbaugh_04
04-22-2009, 05:22 PM
nice first post lol
big hammer
04-22-2009, 05:24 PM
nice first post lol
i guess it was important enough to make an account for
Deuuuce
04-25-2009, 08:38 PM
i think he is new to racing, but its an automatic too. so its pretty easy for him to drive it. so you guys think ill win?
If he doesn't know the gearing, factors like heat soak, ESP off/fully off and stuff like that, you'll win.
but there is no top end in any Dodge.
Hilarious statement with 109-110mph stock trap speed SRT-8s and Furman trapping 130mph in his bone stock ACR.
once again our cars run best at the top end and should be able to take him
So do SRT-8s and will pull an LS1 at triple digits.
SRT 8 brings on a whole new beast. Quick hint (there dogs off the line) Run him from a stop light. 20's dont hook for shit....
Jeff
Dogs only if they can't hook. Otherwise 1.9 60fts are standard.
Car and drivers numbers aren't accurate..... Believe me I'd love to see you take him. I was at Byron IL's dragstrip last saturday and there was a black one there that still had new plates on it and was stock cause I talked to him and it was running 12.7's all day. Hard to get those 20's to hook so a street race could be another story.
For a stock one to run 12.7s "all day" he would need low 1.9 60fts, cool downs and a negative DA with no headwind. And his trap speeds would have to be 110mph.
12.7's stock?? at what speeds? i know car and driver has weak drivers, and they only got 13.8 out of the srt8. however the kicker is they only managed to pull a 103 trap speed. regardless of how you drive, pretty near impossible to run a 12.7 with a 103ish trap on street tires.
No Edmunds ran a 13.6 @ 105mph and attributed the .5 better ET vs. the 300C SRT-8 to the hood scoop. They don't know cars, at all. Car & Driver has very good drivers and they tend to be spot-on for non-drag prepped, non-powershifted cars in good conditions.
I'm guessing a lot of bad information. Not trying to start a fight, but LS1's are walking that dog and kicking that cat on RT's, and SRT-8's all day.
Uh huh. I like how guys with mods beat SRT-8s but stock they tend to lose.
edmunds also got a 13.8 @ 103 out of the charger--- something is up with these cars. some seem to fly and some seem awful. See above.
blackSS01
04-25-2009, 08:54 PM
^ You also stated in another thread about how good Toyotas are. Here is the order JD Power has these three motors rated.
Chevy 5.7 9.8 PPH
Ford 4.6 13.1 PPH
Toyota 5.7 15.6 PPH
PPH = Problems per hundred
GM won engine of the year with the LS1 and has now gotten their plants running at a exceptional rate by changing the way engine blocks are made. Cross threading in a plant is a main reason for errors. GM was the first to get down to 99.9% with 0 PPM
PPM = Problems per million.
I have the article but no scanner. Just thought everyone should know this little tid bit of info when considering vehicles. And the PPH/PPM also goes for GM's 4.8/5.3/5.7/6.0
Food for thought. :true:
big hammer
04-25-2009, 08:55 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9EMsiojNQ8
i guess when they put 13.8@ 103 they meant to put 13.6 @ 105.
Deuuuce
04-26-2009, 12:22 AM
^ You also stated in another thread about how good Toyotas are. Here is the order JD Power has these three motors rated.
Chevy 5.7 9.8 PPH
Ford 4.6 13.1 PPH
Toyota 5.7 15.6 PPH
PPH = Problems per hundred
GM won engine of the year with the LS1 and has now gotten their plants running at a exceptional rate by changing the way engine blocks are made. Cross threading in a plant is a main reason for errors. GM was the first to get down to 99.9% with 0 PPM
PPM = Problems per million.
I have the article but no scanner. Just thought everyone should know this little tid bit of info when considering vehicles. And the PPH/PPM also goes for GM's 4.8/5.3/5.7/6.0
Food for thought. :true:
I don't doubt it for a minute, interesting info, thanks.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9EMsiojNQ8
i guess when they put 13.8@ 103 they meant to put 13.6 @ 105.
It's Edmunds. They think .5 improvement in ET comes from a non-ram air hood scoop. It's a moot point what the video vs. what they publish says...
big hammer
04-26-2009, 06:17 AM
I don't doubt it for a minute, interesting info, thanks.
It's Edmunds. They think .5 improvement in ET comes from a non-ram air hood scoop. It's a moot point what the video vs. what they publish says...
stating that srt8's are running 12.x's bone stock with no proof at all is also a moot point.
Ramairgod84
04-26-2009, 10:00 AM
i raced a new one a couple weeks back goin down the road. I've got shortie headers, filter, lid, free ram air and gmmg and started pulling on him...beautiful cars..heavy bastards
blue02Z
04-26-2009, 01:21 PM
wow over a month and no race-fail
allbaugh_04
04-26-2009, 04:24 PM
yep, thats what i said
RedVertTA
04-26-2009, 04:52 PM
Off topic, but blue02Z WTF is a penis sleeve?
blackSS01
04-26-2009, 05:38 PM
Yup, over a month and no race equals mega fail. Can't believe this turn out. I wanted to know the outcome.
blue02Z
04-26-2009, 07:11 PM
Off topic, but blue02Z WTF is a penis sleeve?
lol man he says it about 1/2 to 3/4 thru. it was posted on here awhile back
http://www.hogrockcafe.com/hey_there_vagina.htm
cobrakiller99
04-26-2009, 07:33 PM
im trying to set it up right now as i type this.
allbaugh_04
04-26-2009, 07:47 PM
uh huh...dick tease
bowtieguy02SS
04-26-2009, 08:12 PM
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..... setting it up eh?
Deuuuce
04-27-2009, 06:29 AM
stating that srt8's are running 12.x's bone stock with no proof at all is also a moot point.
Considering they have been doing it for 3 years now it's not an urban legend.
Zero or negative DA, 1.9x 60ft, cool-down, some prep = 12.8s/12.9s @ 109-110mph.
What that has to do with Edmunds I have no idea. Considering when the major magazines that can actually drive have tested them they ran 13.1s-13.2s @ 108-109mph...
Zinergy
04-27-2009, 07:18 AM
Considering they have been doing it for 3 years now it's not an urban legend.
Zero or negative DA, 1.9x 60ft, cool-down, some prep = 12.8s/12.9s @ 109-110mph.
What that has to do with Edmunds I have no idea. Considering when the major magazines that can actually drive have tested them they ran 13.1s-13.2s @ 108-109mph...
I like the srt-8 engine, which is why i was excited when the challenger came out. They finally put it in a car that looks good
guitarjay76
04-27-2009, 03:54 PM
yeah... its about time! when we hear hemi we think of an old kick ass muscle car not some butt ugly wagon or a four door!!! lol. The challenger is a sure step up from that format. lets hope they stick with it.
WS6Rob
04-27-2009, 03:59 PM
ive seen one get one it before and they are pretty slow
Redegal
04-27-2009, 04:39 PM
Considering they have been doing it for 3 years now it's not an urban legend.
Zero or negative DA, 1.9x 60ft, cool-down, some prep = 12.8s/12.9s @ 109-110mph.
What that has to do with Edmunds I have no idea. Considering when the major magazines that can actually drive have tested them they ran 13.1s-13.2s @ 108-109mph...
Eh, still not fast enough. You pay $45K a new Challenger and it can still get smacked down by a mild modded LS1 or a C6 (a new C6 Vette goes for about the same dough). I think I would rather save ten grand and just get the R/T. Who cares if it's not king of the road? It's still a kick a$$ looking car and also has the Hemi.
big hammer
04-27-2009, 05:07 PM
Considering they have been doing it for 3 years now it's not an urban legend.
Zero or negative DA, 1.9x 60ft, cool-down, some prep = 12.8s/12.9s @ 109-110mph.
What that has to do with Edmunds I have no idea. Considering when the major magazines that can actually drive have tested them they ran 13.1s-13.2s @ 108-109mph...
well then you should be able to show me 3 years worth or documented proof?
Deuuuce
04-28-2009, 04:47 PM
well then you should be able to show me 3 years worth or documented proof?
Go search yourself. Why it isn't believable is beyond comprehension. GTOs have, Fbodies (less top-end than SRT-8s) have, a GXP recently did. It's not an urban legend.
big hammer
04-28-2009, 04:58 PM
Go search yourself. Why it isn't believable is beyond comprehension. GTOs have, Fbodies (less top-end than SRT-8s) have, a GXP recently did. It's not an urban legend.
yeeeaaaaaah.
ss~zoso~ss
04-28-2009, 07:33 PM
ya race him or what man?
02SOMZ
04-28-2009, 07:36 PM
I have had...well, I can't tell you HOW many Challenger R/T guys "woof" me, rev me, etc. and NONE of them have been in a situation where I could have run them...I can't WAIT till I get the chance to finally spank one of these faggots. They are worse than the local V6 Fbody and mustang guys.
LMAO You have one of those too??? There's a local red V6 with an annoyingly loud Magnaflow (I think) cat-back... Ugh, when alongside me he feels the need to floor it and bang through the gears when the light turns green... whatever... I do not bother... It's not worth it since the town is a host to the local state police...
Deuuuce
04-29-2009, 07:38 AM
yeeeaaaaaah.
Denying that a car that can and has trapped 109-110mph can't run 12s is silly, you know.
Roastem
04-29-2009, 09:07 AM
Denying that a car that can and has trapped 109-110mph can't run 12s is silly, you know.
Wow, I take a year off, come back, and waddya know, ole Deuuuce is still here defending the Mopar faith! Good on ya mate!
Going back to an earlier statement from you...I don't know about the "pulling" an LS1 F-bod at triple digit speeds, the aerodynamics just don't work out on that one Deucey. I got mine to 165 near redline in fifth with my girlfriend in the car, and the tops out! (not a good idea BTW)
Being shaped like a bullet vs. a brick has some top end advantage, one would wager.
big hammer
04-29-2009, 10:14 AM
Denying that a car that can and has trapped 109-110mph can't run 12s is silly, you know.
making claims for either without proof is also silly.
Wow, I take a year off, come back, and waddya know, ole Deuuuce is still here defending the Mopar faith! Good on ya mate!
Going back to an earlier statement from you...I don't know about the "pulling" an LS1 F-bod at triple digit speeds, the aerodynamics just don't work out on that one Deucey. I got mine to 165 near redline in fifth with my girlfriend in the car, and the tops out! (not a good idea BTW)
Being shaped like a bullet vs. a brick has some top end advantage, one would wager.
had mine at 166 and still pulling slowly, but ran out of road! it would hit 170+ no problem on the right stretch.
hutch1999
04-29-2009, 11:08 AM
Wow, I take a year off, come back, and waddya know, ole Deuuuce is still here defending the Mopar faith! Good on ya mate!
Going back to an earlier statement from you...I don't know about the "pulling" an LS1 F-bod at triple digit speeds, the aerodynamics just don't work out on that one Deucey. I got mine to 165 near redline in fifth with my girlfriend in the car, and the tops out! (not a good idea BTW)
Being shaped like a bullet vs. a brick has some top end advantage, one would wager.
bricks just dont fly very well
willys srt8
04-29-2009, 02:14 PM
bricks just dont fly very well
b/s. ever heard of the F4 Phantom? that alone proved bricks could fly with enough power. as for top end.... check sig. not at redline just way too fast.
Roastem
04-29-2009, 03:27 PM
:bs: That some kind of sodding digital photography?
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