2002 wrx?

[2000silverbullet]

I have a 3.8 with cat back, hi flow cat, lid, slp cai...my buddies car is not an sti, just a wrx...from a dig, to a hundred...do you think i have him? He is completely stock.

[4tun8]

nope.

[Cayenne97]

naw, sorry man.

[2000silverbullet]

haa im about to cry

[Cayenne97]

well look at the good side. Atleast you didn't go out there and embarrass yourself.

[2000silverbullet]

ohhh im still gonna give it a go, i know my car isnt fast, i still wanna see.

[side2000]

ohhh im still gonna give it a go, i know my car isnt fast, i still wanna see.

well his isnt fast either.

[4tun8]

His should run 14s.......yours should run mid 15

[Superluminal]

If he can launch that WRX from a dig, he is going to hole shot your 3.8L a couple cars which you will never make back up by 100mph. From a roll I think he'll still get you, but not as badly. WRXs are really not that impressive. They're generally 14 second cars and into the 13s with modifications, but the only reasons they are that quick is because of the AWD launch.

I had a buddy with a 2002 WRX Wagon. He had full bolt ons and an ECU flash at 14psi of boost. The car went 13.4@101. Generally a stock WRX will run in the mid 14s at 94-97mph trap.

[Midnight02]

If it's a WRX (assuming it's a relatively newer model), the race still shouldn't be really close -- with the edge going to the WRX. If it's just a base Impreza you should have a slight edge at winning that one.

Since you stated earlier that it's definitely NOT an STI, we won't need to comment how that race would end.

At the end of the day, I'd go for it and run him. Hopefully you'll gain an advantage as a more skilled driver and that should make for a good race. Let us know how it goes.

[2000silverbullet]

I will, thanks guys.

[1 RedHot TransAm]

just run him, hope you kick his ass...

[flash]

WESMAN in 5.4.3.2.1........:Popcorn:

[2000silverbullet]

i hope i do too...its the kids first standard, plus he is putting the engine in himself...so im hoping it wont run exactly right haha...but ill let you guys know.

[BigEag205]

thanks buddy...ill remember that when im wavin bye to you once we launch, haha. BTW i work at subaru so I'm used to driving the new sti and wrx 5/6 spd and have driven other various standard transmissions including a white 02 wrx fully modded to run with sti's for a month or so, so i do know how drive a standard. good luck to you though. It should be interesting!

[2000silverbullet]

haha you didnt just create an account to say that...man your cocky...i hope my six banger rapes you.

[BigEag205]

haha you didnt just create an account to say that...man your cocky...i hope my six banger rapes you.

no...i had one forever ago when i about bought that orange z in the valley. haha

[hutch1999]

no...i had one forever ago when i about bought that orange z in the valley. haha

do you also have a stang?

[Wesman]

WRX's really aren't fast at all, my friend has one of the newer ones with the 2.5 turbo and its still slow. We also put the Cobb Stage 2 tuner on it, he said he noticed a huge difference, I honestly didn't notice much of anything.

Problem is you're driving a 3.8 Camaro, so unless your car is a 5 speed, I don't really see you beating him at all. If you have a 5 speed it might be close, because you would both be putting down about the same HP at the wheels, but he's still got the gearing and weight advantage.

[2000silverbullet]

you never owned a camaro?

[4tun8]

WRX's really aren't fast at all, my friend has one of the newer ones with the 2.5 turbo and its still slow. We also put the Cobb Stage 2 tuner on it, he said he noticed a huge difference, I honestly didn't notice much of anything.

Problem is you're driving a 3.8 Camaro, so unless your car is a 5 speed, I don't really see you beating him at all. If you have a 5 speed it might be close, because you would both be putting down about the same HP at the wheels, but he's still got the gearing and weight advantage.


You're a plethora of misinformation and half truths.

[2000silverbullet]

no offense, but your saying that because you own an evo.

[Superluminal]

WRX's really aren't fast at all, my friend has one of the newer ones with the 2.5 turbo and its still slow. We also put the Cobb Stage 2 tuner on it, he said he noticed a huge difference, I honestly didn't notice much of anything.

Problem is you're driving a 3.8 Camaro, so unless your car is a 5 speed, I don't really see you beating him at all. If you have a 5 speed it might be close, because you would both be putting down about the same HP at the wheels, but he's still got the gearing and weight advantage.

What? Where are you getting your info? I like how you made some of that up. :slap:

[Superluminal]

no offense, but your saying that because you own an evo.

No offense, but you're going to lose. You do not have the advantage.

.... and we've all owned F-body's or we wouldn't be here, so don't try to capitalize on our current auto collections. For the record... 4tun8's EVO and my 240 (both of them) would rock many of the cars on this site.

[Cayenne97]

No offense, but you're going to lose. You do not have the advantage.

.... and we've all owned F-body's or we wouldn't be here, so don't try to capitalize on our current auto collections. For the record... 4tun8's EVO and my 240 (both of them) would rock many of the cars on this site.

Let's not start bragging now. :nono:

[hutch1999]

Let's not start bragging now. :nono:

lol as i look at your sig with a 9 sec car and an 11 sec car...

[SS02]

well his isnt fast either.
:iagree:

Have a slow/fun time...

[Cayenne97]

lol as i look at your sig with a 9 sec car and an 11 sec car...

Why yes, the terrible twosome!! :devil:

[hutch1999]

Why yes, the terrible twosome!! :devil:

cant believe the 9 sec car is one of those junk lt1s............ lol jk

[4tun8]

no offense, but your saying that because you own an evo.

No offense but you're wrong. I also own a domestic, plus I also owned a V6 Camaro and I drag raced it numerous times and know what they run.

[Wesman]

You're a plethora of misinformation and half truths.

You're just butthurt because I tell it like it is, thats obvious.

Get a grip, there was nothing inaccurate about my post.

[Wesman]

What? Where are you getting your info? I like how you made some of that up. :slap:

Where am I getting my info?? I thought I made that clear.

I have one friend with an '05 STI and another with an '07 WRX. I got my info first hand, can't be any more truthful or accurate than that.

[Superluminal]

lol as i look at your sig with a 9 sec car and an 11 sec car...

It's not a 9 seconds car yet, but thanks anyway. Drag radials don't hook well on this little car. The trap speed is there, but I still have some work to get it to hook all the power down. It's rather difficult on a manual transmission car with drag radials, and I haven't had the time to really practice at the track lately. My LS1 240SX is much easier to get the power down, since it has a much flatter and easier to use power band.

[Superluminal]

cant believe the 9 sec car is one of those junk lt1s............ lol jk

No it's even crappier, it's a 4 cylinder....... :suicide:

[hutch1999]

It's not a 9 seconds car yet, but thanks anyway. Drag radials don't hook well on this little car. The trap speed is there, but I still have some work to get it to hook all the power down. It's rather difficult on a manual transmission car with drag radials, and I haven't had the time to really practice at the track lately. My LS1 240SX is much easier to get the power down, since it has a much flatter and easier to use power band.

the post was directed toward Cayenne97. Your cars are both awesome tho. I would drive either one of them.

[Superluminal]

Where am I getting my info?? I thought I made that clear.

I have one friend with an '05 STI and another with an '07 WRX. I got my info first hand, can't be any more truthful or accurate than that.

Hrmm, I have first hand experience as well. Since I had a friend that owned a 2002 WRX Wagon, and now owns an 2009 STI Wagon.

His 2002 WRX ran in the 14s stock. With bolt ons and a bit more boost (Stage 1), it ran in the low 13s. So you're saying a second off your quarter mile time isn't an improvement and not noticeable? I sure as hell noticed the difference in that car.

He is running low 13s stock in his 2009 STI.

[Superluminal]

the post was directed toward Cayenne97. Your cars are both awesome tho. I would drive either one of them.

My apologies. I end up driving the LS1 car the most, even though its not as fast as my other car.... it's more fun to drive. Go figure. LS1 FTW???

[hutch1999]

My apologies. I end up driving the LS1 car the most, even though its not as fast as my other car.... it's more fun to drive. Go figure. LS1 FTW???

stuff your apoligies in a sack bro lol, so i take it you enjoy the drivability of the ls1?

[Cayenne97]

stuff your apoligies in a sack bro lol, so i take it you enjoy the drivability of the ls1?

Don't you think I get ragged on enuff man lol. :Poke:

[Superluminal]

stuff your apoligies in a sack bro lol, so i take it you enjoy the drivability of the ls1?

I enjoy being able to beat on it nonstop, but since the motor is pretty much stock, it takes the punishment and goes fast, since it's in a light chassis. One of the best things about this motor is the powerband. It has great powerband, pretty much all of the RPMs are useful, where as my turbo car I have to wait a bit for boost to kick in, then hold on or hold the car straight. The LS1 is easy mode, and because I don't have to try that hard to drive the car fast, I can do more thrashing with the car and it becomes more fun to drive. Even with a bolt ons LS1, it picks up and goes like the car weighs nothing. I've raced LS1 F-bodies with similar mods and power output as my LS1 240 and destroyed them. I didn't think weight alone would account for such a drastic difference, but apparently I can trap 118mph in the 1/4 as opposed to 110mph in an F-body with similar mods.

[hutch1999]

Don't you think I get ragged on enuff man lol. :Poke:

lol it happens, here lately it really seems like the kill forum is dominated by non-fbod cars. no offense to anyone on here w/o a f bod.

[hutch1999]

I enjoy being able to beat on it nonstop, but since the motor is pretty much stock, it takes the punishment and goes fast, since it's in a light chassis. One of the best things about this motor is the powerband. It has great powerband, pretty much all of the RPMs are useful, where as my turbo car I have to wait a bit for boost to kick in, then hold on or hold the car straight. The LS1 is easy mode, and because I don't have to try that hard to drive the car fast, I can do more thrashing with the car and it becomes more fun to drive. Even with a bolt ons LS1, it picks up and goes like the car weighs nothing. I've raced LS1 F-bodies with similar mods and power output as my LS1 240 and destroyed them. I didn't think weight alone would account for such a drastic difference, but apparently I can trap 118mph in the 1/4 as opposed to 110mph in an F-body with similar mods.

yea that weight is a big factor. the say every 100lbs off is a tenth off your 1/4 mile. just wait till you do some serious motor mods to the ls1

[Wesman]

Hrmm, I have first hand experience as well. Since I had a friend that owned a 2002 WRX Wagon, and now owns an 2009 STI Wagon.

His 2002 WRX ran in the 14s stock. With bolt ons and a bit more boost (Stage 1), it ran in the low 13s. So you're saying a second off your quarter mile time isn't an improvement and not noticeable? I sure as hell noticed the difference in that car.

He is running low 13s stock in his 2009 STI.

I don't know what my friend's '07 runs stock, he hasn't had it to the track. I've rode in/driven it plenty of times though, and its pretty damn slow. Feels like a 15.0 second car. My friends 94 Mustang GT actually feels faster, then again they both trap about the same.

My friend had the Cobb Stage 2 programmer only. No other mods, just the programmer itself for $600. It was supposed to give it like 25HP, but I didn't really notice any difference.

[4tun8]

Wesman if it were the fastest car in the world you'd find an issue with it because it's not an LS1.

[Superluminal]

I don't know what my friend's '07 runs stock, he hasn't had it to the track. I've rode in/driven it plenty of times though, and its pretty damn slow. Feels like a 15.0 second car. My friends 94 Mustang GT actually feels faster, then again they both trap about the same.

My friend had the Cobb Stage 2 programmer only. No other mods, just the programmer itself for $600. It was supposed to give it like 25HP, but I didn't really notice any difference.

Programmer is probably going to turn the boost up a bit and adjust the air/fuel. If he didn't have supporting mods with the tune.... it would be useless, hence no change in performance.

.... and on a WRX you can get 25+whp from deleting all the cats with a straight 3" exhaust. The 3 stock cats choke the car. I would say that is the biggest modification on any BPU turbo 4 banger. Back when my 240SX had a BPU SR20DET, I noticed a difference with a full 3" exhaust. It also put on 27whp more on the dyno with no tuning or boost increase.

It's strange that you would feel a Mustang GT as being faster. Turbo cars are generally more deceptive to the butt dyno. I remember when my 240SX, under BPU power, was putting out 250whp. My car "felt" faster than a bolt ons LS1, but the performance was about equal or a bit slower which was weird since an LS1 felt like it was going for a cruise and my car felt like it was boosting it's stock turbo apart. It must be the rush of going from no power to some power that is deceptive, where as an LS1 has a flat power band, so it feels the same everywhere.

[Wesman]

Wesman if it were the fastest car in the world you'd find an issue with it because it's not an LS1.

If you have nothing useful to add, don't bother wasting space with your post.

[Wesman]

Programmer is probably going to turn the boost up a bit and adjust the air/fuel. If he didn't have supporting mods with the tune.... it would be useless, hence no change in performance.

Like I said, no supporting mods, just the programmer. Hence the modest power increase.

It's strange that you would feel a Mustang GT as being faster. Turbo cars are generally more deceptive to the butt dyno. I remember when my 240SX, under BPU power, was putting out 250whp. My car "felt" faster than a bolt ons LS1, but the performance was about equal or a bit slower which was weird since an LS1 felt like it was going for a cruise and my car felt like it was boosting it's stock turbo apart. It must be the rush of going from no power to some power that is deceptive, where as an LS1 has a flat power band, so it feels the same everywhere.

Thats why I think a larger motor feels faster to me even if it has about the same power as a smaller one. Instead of that sudden but short burst of power, you have a fat powerband that sets you in the seat and keeps you there!!

[cuzimoto]

Back to the original post, that actually made me laugh out load

[mogs01gt]

The wrx is gonna hook ya bad!