Just want your opinions...... [Archive] - LS1 Performance Information

clg82

12-30-2008, 11:08 AM

02transamce

12-30-2008, 11:32 AM

what the hell,just race him and see what happens.:0

clg82

12-30-2008, 11:36 AM

what the hell,just race him and see what happens.:0

lol i knew at least one person would have posted this reply^^^^ I just have never heard of an "L6" and it's twin turbo......anyone else with some suggestions?

muteki

12-30-2008, 01:19 PM

I am familiar with the motor. Its one of the new 3 series. From what the dealer told me, the M3 will beat it in the 1/4 by a car length. I haven't driven the twin myself, but I have driven an M3. The stock T/A will be down the the driver. If you got intake exhaust and minor mods, you should be fine.

BIG GUNS

12-30-2008, 01:22 PM

what the hell,just race him and see what happens.:0

+1 on the race anyways. Who cares if you stand a chance. Jesus didn't start his campaign on wondering if he stood a chance. Look at him now.

c5z28

12-30-2008, 01:26 PM

Shit i'll race him where's his house, not everyday someone with a bmw is willing to race you.

AshleyRocks

12-30-2008, 01:26 PM

just race if u get ur ass handed to u it will be a nice learning experience lol

BIG GUNS

12-30-2008, 01:30 PM

just race if u get ur ass handed to u it will be a nice learning experience lol

Yeah, every now and then I get my ass handed to me but, not too often. When I do, its not the end of the world if you do.

Just remember to keep your rpms low on the launch and you should be able to take him. If I remember correctly, those BMWs take a bit to work up some lather anyways.

BIG GUNS

12-30-2008, 01:31 PM

btw, the rims and rotors won't help much on the time slip.....lol.

clg82

12-30-2008, 03:38 PM

btw, the rims and rotors won't help much on the time slip.....lol.

Yeh i know smart ass.........

:playball:

Durango

12-30-2008, 04:21 PM

yOU WILL BEAT HIM. i DROVE ONE AND IT DIDN'T FEEL QUICK COMPARED TO MY CAR BUT .....

Superluminal

12-30-2008, 08:20 PM

If you're talking about the BMW with the I6 twin turbo motor, you can get those in the mid to low 12s with nothing other than an ECU flash that ups the boost, which will essentially make the car still stock. You could be in for a surprise if you can't trap at least 110mph.

cobrakiller99

12-30-2008, 10:57 PM

lol i knew at least one person would have posted this reply^^^^ I just have never heard of an "L6" and it's twin turbo......anyone else with some suggestions?

"Line six" means Inline 6 which is the pistons are all in a row. I think its a m series bmw and if he put a twin turbo in that thing, that car is fastt

Justin93

12-31-2008, 07:09 AM

I have a buddy at work with a BMW it has an "L6" engine with twin turbo. He said he wants to race me. Do I stand a chance with my modifications in my signature? It has a paddle shifter he says......I am going to race him I just wanted to know what I am in for.........Thanks for all of the help in advance!

Well I have driven those cars and they are Very fast in the manual trans version and paddle shift!!! Im assuming he has the 135 "I-6" not "L-6" twin turbo pushing 300 hp in a tiny car. If that is the case it will be one hell of a fight for the T/A. Make sure you get a good launch if you go from a Dig and if you do it from a roll make sure the car is not in O/D.

clg82

12-31-2008, 09:48 AM

Well I have driven those cars and they are Very fast in the manual trans version and paddle shift!!! Im assuming he has the 135 "I-6" not "L-6" twin turbo pushing 300 hp in a tiny car. If that is the case it will be one hell of a fight for the T/A. Make sure you get a good launch if you go from a Dig and if you do it from a roll make sure the car is not in O/D.

He insists that the car is an L6 twin turbo.....i saw the car and it is a four door if that helps any.......anyone else with an idea?

cobrakiller99

12-31-2008, 10:11 AM

He insists that the car is an L6 twin turbo.....i saw the car and it is a four door if that helps any.......anyone else with an idea?

It definitely isnt a m series bmw then.

Superluminal

12-31-2008, 12:45 PM

He insists that the car is an L6 twin turbo.....i saw the car and it is a four door if that helps any.......anyone else with an idea?

Go to Dragtimes.com

Those BMW 135i (I6 twin turbo 4 door) run low 13s stock and trap 106-110mph bone stock. They make a cheap ECU flash that ups the boost, so essentially the car will do mid to low 12s and trap from 112-117mph depending on conditions. He could be hiding this from you as, you could never tell from looking at the car. You are done for if he has the ECU flash, if he's stock it should be a good race.

Go at it and see what happens.

clg82

12-31-2008, 01:21 PM

Go to Dragtimes.com

Those BMW 135i (I6 twin turbo 4 door) run low 13s stock and trap 106-110mph bone stock. They make a cheap ECU flash that ups the boost, so essentially the car will do mid to low 12s and trap from 112-117mph depending on conditions. He could be hiding this from you as, you could never tell from looking at the car. You are done for if he has the ECU flash, if he's stock it should be a good race.

Go at it and see what happens.

He did mention the tune, he was planning on getting! uh oh.........i will race him anyways and let you know how it goes!

Too Fast

12-31-2008, 02:07 PM

wooddaniel

12-31-2008, 05:24 PM

Race him. I almost never get the chance to race a Beemer!

Superluminal

12-31-2008, 06:52 PM

No such thing as an "L6" unless it is some German nomeclature. Engines are either Inline, V or W. I guess the L6 he is refering to could stand for "longitudinal" like our engines are. Anyway, race him, and also tell him you don't have a wimpy paddle shifter, you drive like a real man does with a proper manual transmission. Launch control is our left and right feet, with our brain involved LOL.

There's a couple of others like flat, U, H, rotary, deltic, radial, square, VR, opposed, and X. Those aren't too common or discontinued.

The upside to his paddle shift he won't miss a gear and there is no delay between his shift. Generally the paddle shift cars (event though I hate them) are faster, especially in a turbo car since it stays in boost between shifts.

If he's got a paddle shifter and the ECU tune, I think he's got you, but who knows, you may have a really strong LS1 and can drive well.

Too Fast

01-03-2009, 03:41 PM

Yeah I guess I was referring to common car engines. I did forget about the flat engines that Porsche and Subaru have in high production numbers. Opposed would be the same, eh? Didn't Ferarri have a flat 8 and 12 cylinder engines for a while? Can you give me an example of a U, deltic, square and VR? Are these fighter plane engines from WW2? Rotary is not a piston engine, but a fuel burning engine non-the-less.

clg82

01-04-2009, 06:12 PM

There's a couple of others like flat, U, H, rotary, deltic, radial, square, VR, opposed, and X. Those aren't too common or discontinued.

The upside to his paddle shift he won't miss a gear and there is no delay between his shift. Generally the paddle shift cars (event though I hate them) are faster, especially in a turbo car since it stays in boost between shifts.

If he's got a paddle shifter and the ECU tune, I think he's got you, but who knows, you may have a really strong LS1 and can drive well.

I have an automatic so I won't be missing a shift either.......:thumbup:.....anyone else with some suggestions?

Superluminal

01-04-2009, 10:04 PM

I have an automatic so I won't be missing a shift either.......:thumbup:.....anyone else with some suggestions?

I think you have more information than you need. Line up, out launch him, and hope you can hold him off.

Wesman

01-07-2009, 02:36 PM

No such thing as an "L6" unless it is some German nomeclature. Engines are either Inline, V or W. I guess the L6 he is refering to could stand for "longitudinal" like our engines are. Anyway, race him, and also tell him you don't have a wimpy paddle shifter, you drive like a real man does with a proper manual transmission. Launch control is our left and right feet, with our brain involved LOL.

L6 is just an old term for Inline 6 (I6). If you look at any older car's specs (1960s/70s), they list the engine as an "L6". I believe it is derived from the fact that the cam is in the bottom right side of the engine, giving the block a sort of "L" shape. Could be wrong, but thats the only reason I can think of for the "L" designation instead of "I".

Superluminal

01-07-2009, 09:52 PM

wickedbeast

01-07-2009, 10:01 PM

just race him

'98 white formula

01-08-2009, 01:03 AM

Go head & run him best 2 out of 3 if he wins first run, tell him y'all go on third horn blow leave on second if he wins again, get info to smash his ass.

Midnight02

01-08-2009, 10:05 AM

In short, it sounds like he's driving a 4-door 335i. The cars are good for low to mid 13's bone stock and they respond very well to minor mods (tune, etc.). If the guy increased the boost with a reflash, the car is capable of running in the 12's with a good driver.

At the end of the day, you have a car that is capable of 12's -- if he's bone stock, I think you clearly have an advantage. That being said, don't roast the tires on the launch, otherwise you might end up in a hole too big to climb out of.

Too Fast

01-08-2009, 03:06 PM

L6 is just an old term for Inline 6 (I6). If you look at any older car's specs (1960s/70s), they list the engine as an "L6". I believe it is derived from the fact that the cam is in the bottom right side of the engine, giving the block a sort of "L" shape. Could be wrong, but thats the only reason I can think of for the "L" designation instead of "I".

Correct.

Sounds like you guys like inline 6 cylinder engines more than I do LOL. Nuthin' but V8s for this boy. They are the only engines that make the right, gutteral, ethereal roar!

But Wesman's definition makes the most sense, with the cam offset somewhat giving the engine a sort of "L" shape.

Superluminal

01-08-2009, 05:52 PM

Sounds like you guys like inline 6 cylinder engines more than I do LOL. Nuthin' but V8s for this boy. They are the only engines that make the right, gutteral, ethereal roar!

But Wesman's definition makes the most sense, with the cam offset somewhat giving the engine a sort of "L" shape.

:haha: You said Wesman likes I6 engines.

Too Fast

01-09-2009, 05:04 AM

:haha: You said Wesman likes I6 engines.

Yeah, I'm waiting for the :bat:

1998 T/A

01-12-2009, 12:48 PM

my uncle has an 05 M3..good luck if its really twin turboed

Wesman

01-13-2009, 05:35 PM

:haha: You said Wesman likes I6 engines.

Vortec 4200 I6 in the Trailblazer is a great motor :dunno:

So is the new BMW I6 Twin Turbo.

4tun8

01-14-2009, 04:25 AM

And your opinion of the 2jz-gte Wesman?

Wesman

01-14-2009, 01:29 PM

And your opinion of the 2jz-gte Wesman?

Overpriced, turbo lag plagued dyno queens :yup:

They also sound absolutely terrible.

Superluminal

01-14-2009, 10:09 PM

Overpriced, turbo lag plagued dyno queens :yup:

They also sound absolutely terrible.

.... all straight 6s sound similar. I think they sound great with a single turbo setup. With BPU twin turbos they sound like crud.

Wesman

01-16-2009, 09:36 PM

.... all straight 6s sound similar. I think they sound great with a single turbo setup. With BPU twin turbos they sound like crud.

I don't think they sound good period. They sound like a lawnmower engine with a turbocharger.

If you've ever heard the Vortec 4200, it sounds much better.

Superluminal

01-16-2009, 10:00 PM

I don't think they sound good period. They sound like a lawnmower engine with a turbocharger.

If you've ever heard the Vortec 4200, it sounds much better.

You're joking right.... you must be deaf. Supras sound NOTHING like a lawnmower... that's what a Honda with a fart pipe sounds like.

...and a Vortec 4200 sounds like any other I6. I Youtubed it. Nothing special. They all sound similar.

4tun8

01-17-2009, 05:31 AM

Wesman hates Japanese cars. You'll learn this in time.

Wesman

01-17-2009, 08:26 PM

You're joking right.... you must be deaf. Supras sound NOTHING like a lawnmower... that's what a Honda with a fart pipe sounds like.

...and a Vortec 4200 sounds like any other I6. I Youtubed it. Nothing special. They all sound similar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegUMKEdffo

My lawnmower sounds better than that.

00LS12LS6Z28

01-17-2009, 08:47 PM

Hurley711

01-17-2009, 09:03 PM

did the race happen?

Superluminal

01-18-2009, 01:21 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegUMKEdffo

My lawnmower sounds better than that.

So you picked the worst sound quality video on Youtube....

Sure Supras aren't the best sounding, but they are certainly not bad sounding.

Try these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXcisWsOMaA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnJLF8jhJTA

Wesman

01-18-2009, 11:57 AM

So you picked the worst sound quality video on Youtube....

Sure Supras aren't the best sounding, but they are certainly not bad sounding.

Try these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXcisWsOMaA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnJLF8jhJTA

Both of those sound like crap, no different than the video I posted. I don't know why you have this need to convince people that a motor that sounds like garbage sounds good. The only reason people think they sound good is because they hear the turbos, the exhaust note itself sounds like a lawnmower in need of a tune up.

Too Fast

01-18-2009, 12:26 PM

Give me V8 noise or give me death! I, too, much prefer the sound (music) of a V8! I haven't watched the video tho.

clg82

01-21-2009, 06:39 PM

The 135I is only a two door. I think you are racing a 335XI. This is an all wheel drive car. 300hp, 0-60 in 5.3. Since you have mods, you should win. This is a drivers race,and you have an automatic...........

Nope it's not an all wheel drive car.......and it is 4 doors

did the race happen?

This schmuck keeps giving me the run around........oh i have to this....oh i have to do that bullshit!

Superluminal

01-21-2009, 10:45 PM

Both of those sound like crap, no different than the video I posted. I don't know why you have this need to convince people that a motor that sounds like garbage sounds good. The only reason people think they sound good is because they hear the turbos, the exhaust note itself sounds like a lawnmower in need of a tune up.

You're preference. I do think a V8 sounds better, but seriously.... Supras don't sound that bad. The exhaust note is what sound pretty good. The turbo sound is the same on any car.

I don't know why you have this need to convince people that you're ignorant.

Wesman

01-22-2009, 01:49 PM

You're preference. I do think a V8 sounds better, but seriously.... Supras don't sound that bad. The exhaust note is what sound pretty good. The turbo sound is the same on any car.

I don't know why you have this need to convince people that you're ignorant.

It has nothing to do with being ignorant. How does not liking something, with good reason, make you "ignorant"?? Ricers love pulling the "ignorant" card, if you don't like their car, for any reason, you are a "hater" or you are "ignorant". Its ridiculous.

The car sounds like crap and I don't like cars that sound like crap. It has absolutely nothing to do with being ignorant. Thats my opinion, case closed, leave it at that.

Superluminal

01-22-2009, 02:22 PM

It has nothing to do with being ignorant. How does not liking something, with good reason, make you "ignorant"?? Ricers love pulling the "ignorant" card, if you don't like their car, for any reason, you are a "hater" or you are "ignorant". Its ridiculous.

The car sounds like crap and I don't like cars that sound like crap. It has absolutely nothing to do with being ignorant. Thats my opinion, case closed, leave it at that.

That wasn't solely meant for that post.... the vast majority of them are full of ignorance. I think you just feel insecure, so you pull the ricer card on everyone else.

Wesman

01-23-2009, 11:02 AM

That wasn't solely meant for that post.... the vast majority of them are full of ignorance. I think you just feel insecure, so you pull the ricer card on everyone else.

Whatever helps you sleep at night :rolleyes: