Little H22 Turbo bummed out

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

So this guy has been riding me for YEARS about how when ya do this this and this he will have this much horse power, I mean I put u with this at lunch at the skool for so long, I'm the only one with pure muscle, they are all wanna be's, so anyway, 3 years later he FINALLY gets his h22 turbo'd...and the talk of the town was how he was going to finally race me. We went out the stretch, Dead stop, SMOKED him, 30K roll, SMOKED HIM, than he was bitchin and wineing his turbo wouldn't work until a higher RPM, so I gave him 60K. SEE YAAA
I later heard he blew his motor RIGHT UP trying to boost the PSI so he could catch me.

1999 Trans Am WS6

[Wesman]

Nice kill.

Ricers are stupid lol, they always end up losing.

[Eric1987]

H22 is an impressive motor. For how old it is it kicks major ass. 200 HP out of a 4 cylinder 2.2L back in 93 was awesome. They made one with 220 HP out of the same 2.2L H22. From the Type S Prelude. Gotta hand them motors some respect. VTEC kicks hard and is fun too. But of course you'd kill that idiot. Now if it was properly taken care of and boosted I doubt it woulda been easy.

[SS02]

Can U say lack of tq... tourqe!

[NavdeepWS6]

yeah i got a friend with a crx with a b18 swap and its fully built with brandnew everything and he cant even keep up with the ls1 and im waiting for him to get his turbo

[zero_proto]

there are some nasty little all motor civics out here. I would never doubt any car, but if that kid new what he was doing and had it built correctly he most likely would have walked you out. What car was the H22 in, did he do a swap or was it in a pre-.

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

it was a swap, outta some jap taxi in japan im guessin, in some 92 hatch back or somethin

[hutch1999]

nice kill, what are the mods you have?

[Eric1987]

it was a swap, outta some jap taxi in japan im guessin, in some 92 hatch back or somethin

An H22? Those are in Hondas distinct Prelude line.

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

Yeah I dnuno, these guys get them from japan outta taxi's. they are all used when they get them.

My mods ate LS6 Heads/Cam SLP LS6 Intake, Headers, Exhaust, Tune

[Rhinohuey]

i dont really understand it, but ive been beat by a couple turbo b16s and even a couple turbo d15s but ive never seen an h22/h23 perform....i always kill them turbo or not

[blackhawk01]

Yeah I dnuno, these guys get them from japan outta taxi's. they are all used when they get them.


My mods ate LS6 Heads/Cam SLP LS6 Intake, Headers, Exhaust, Tune


are you an A4 or M6?

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

are you an A4 or M6?

I am M6

[adam3566]

i dont really understand it, but ive been beat by a couple turbo b16s and even a couple turbo d15s but ive never seen an h22/h23 perform....i always kill them turbo or not

Turbo D15's you get beat by? wow that is really sad. You either can't drive for shit or something is wrong with your car.

[Eric1987]

Yeah D15's are horrible. H22s are gods compared to them.

[JwMonE99]

D series motors can take a lot of boost tho.....

[Eric1987]

They NEED a lot of boost to be anything. A H22 on 10 PSI can be a formidable force.

[95camaroZNC]

H22 has high HP and Low TQ where as a D series is a more torqie motor. H22 can have alot of power but getting that power to something useable is difficult and costly. But if i ever wana pick on someone with a 5.0 i always ask them "hey doesnt your car run the same numbers as a H22 Prelude stock?" worth a good laugh.

[Eric1987]

Dude the H22 is known as the honda torque engine. The only engine that has more torque is the F22 from the S2000. D15 SOHC torquless engine ftw.

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

I dunno bout u guys but i just posted this kill story for ppl to enjoy a ricer getting smoked, not to hear the history on the H22, I'll never own a ricer so I dont really give a shit ;)

[JwMonE99]

They NEED a lot of boost to be anything. A H22 on 10 PSI can be a formidable force.

Yea but they can handle a ridiculous amount of boost, somthing like 45lbs or something like that.

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

why dont all u guys sell your ta's and camaro's and buy a ricer with an h22 since ya's seem to be so facisnated by them lol

[hutch1999]

why dont all u guys sell your ta's and camaro's and buy a ricer with an h22 since ya's seem to be so facisnated by them lol

it is good to know more than just ls1 sometimes

[shady milkman]

it is good to know more than just ls1 sometimes

x2...need to learn about your opponent so you dont talk shit and get smoked looking like an idiot

[JwMonE99]

I dont like honda, just because I know about them doesnt mean I have to go out and buy one.

[hutch1999]

I dont like honda, just because I know about them doesnt mean I have to go out and buy one.

I like honda cars as DD transportation, I will most likely be driving a hand me down accord next year for DD

[JwMonE99]

I rather have nissan DD

[hutch1999]

I myself like hondas reliability

[Superluminal]

There is so much misinformation in this thread it's crazy. Let me tell you that I have owned both imports and domestics and have been on both sides of the fence for a long time.

That "kid" you raced obviously didn't have his car setup right. Around where I live there are some pretty respectable Honda builders. I've seen quite of few H22/K20/K24/B and D series turbo setups in a variety of Hondas.

I have a personal friend who had an H22 turbo setup in a '95 Civic hatchback. The car was running a GT30R turbo and was properly tuned with supported mods. This car did a 11.5 at the track and trapped 123-126mph. Keep in mind this car is stock internals running 16psi of boost.

Now, grats on you're win, but don't think that because you won against some punk kid in a poorly built H22 turbo hatch that you are the fastest around. There is always someone faster on both sides of the fence. An LS6 heads/cam with bolt ons is basically a C5 ZO6 with bolt ons and a tune, but in a heavier chassis. You have a respectable car, but there are plenty of street imports that would take the cake from you. Just something to be aware of.

[Eric1987]

I hate people who hate on certain cars. I am a car enthusiast. I love all things that are built well and deserve respect. Dont matter to me if its import or domestic. Yates is pretty ignorant.

[Superluminal]

I hate people who hate on certain cars. I am a car enthusiast. I love all things that are built well and deserve respect. Dont matter to me if its import or domestic. Yates is pretty ignorant.

Yeah, he seems like one of those people who's stuck in a world where LSX is the best and only thing that exists. I'm glad most of you can respect any car that puts down a good run. But who knows, he might be 16 and not grown up yet. Hopefully he'll mature.... or crash. One of those.

[tonyjnjz]

man........lotta jap pole smokers on this page!!!!!!!!!! oooo lets mod a 4 cyl from 110 hp to 200 and make this 18 sec economy car a 14 sec car.....what a waste of time and esp money

[shady milkman]

man........lotta jap pole smokers on this page!!!!!!!!!! oooo lets mod a 4 cyl from 110 hp to 200 and make this 18 sec economy car a 14 sec car.....what a waste of time and esp money

um many run 13 or lower..for as much as we are jap pole smokers ..your an ignorant muscle car pole smoker that thinks muscle cars are impossible to beat.

[hutch1999]

um many run 13 or lower..for as much as we are jap pole smokers ..your an ignorant muscle car pole smoker that thinks muscle cars are impossible to beat.

there are a lot that run faster, but the massive amount of half-assed hondas overshadow that fact

[tonyjnjz]

um many run 13 or lower..for as much as we are jap pole smokers ..your an ignorant muscle car pole smoker that thinks muscle cars are impossible to beat.

there fucking TURDS unless you pour thousands of hard earned american dollars + blood sweat and tears into them..........just to get a fast turd with massive tq steer.........mine came low 13s outta the box.......and did i ever say muscle cars or my car in particular is impossible to beat? definitly NOT the case.........but i wouldnt even think about trading my car for a 10 sec gutted crx TURD

[tonyjnjz]

UNLESS !!!!!


that crx turd came with some hot ass asian sema show girl ...mmmmmmmmmmmmm yummmy........then its a deal

[Eric1987]

um many run 13 or lower..for as much as we are jap pole smokers ..your an ignorant muscle car pole smoker that thinks muscle cars are impossible to beat.

there fucking TURDS unless you pour thousands of hard earned american dollars + blood sweat and tears into them..........just to get a fast turd with massive tq steer.........mine came low 13s outta the box.......and did i ever say muscle cars or my car in particular is impossible to beat? definitly NOT the case.........but i wouldnt even think about trading my car for a 10 sec gutted crx TURD

You're the biggest faggot on this site and need to get banned asap.

[tonyjnjz]

You're the biggest faggot on this site and need to get banned asap.

please explain why u belive this ? id love to know......and this isnt ihumphondas.com so be careful

:love:

[hutch1999]

You're the biggest faggot on this site and need to get banned asap.

he doesnt need to be banned, he is just throwing his opinion out there

[Eric1987]

he doesnt need to be banned, he is just throwing his opinion out there

With no truth behind it. He has opinions without any source. Just they suck and it takes a lot of hard work to get them fast. He needs to be banned.

[tonyjnjz]

With no truth behind it. He has opinions without any source. Just they suck and it takes a lot of hard work to get them fast. He needs to be banned.

so explain how thats not a true statement???? they ARE a turd stock and they DO need lots of hard work and money to make them fast as well as having immense tq steer .......so how am i wrong?....just because u dont like the facts im throwing at u?.......and btw eric i previously owned an 03 rsx-s so i think that qualifys me as having some jap experience first hand

[tonyjnjz]

you also seem to have a lot of anger my young friend..........goooose frabba....say it with me

[hutch1999]

With no truth behind it. He has opinions without any source. Just they suck and it takes a lot of hard work to get them fast. He needs to be banned.

no my man, thats whats good about ls1.com. It is almost like you have the right to speak your opinion no matter what it is. It is almost like ls1.com has a 1st amendment.

He did call people jap pole smokers, but you called him a faggot. You put yourself on his level

[Eric1987]

No I didnt. I made fun of him not tons of people. He is a faggot because he is one of the most ignorant members I have seen. Those opinions and people should be banned. They bring this site down.

[tonyjnjz]

no my man, thats whats good about ls1.com. It is almost like you have the right to speak your opinion no matter what it is. It is almost like ls1.com has a 1st amendment.

He did call people jap pole smokers, but you called him a faggot. You put yourself on his level

hey now hutch!!!!!!!!! they were smokin jap poles!!!!! and i said it in a general way not directly at somone which is against ls1.com rules :true:

[tonyjnjz]

No I didnt. I made fun of him not tons of people. He is a faggot because he is one of the most ignorant members I have seen. Those opinions and people should be banned. They bring this site down.

you still didnt answer the question i asked u?

[hutch1999]

hey now hutch!!!!!!!!! they were smokin jap poles!!!!! and i said it in a general way not directly at somone which is against ls1.com rules :true:

thats why I said "people" as a term. You did not directly target anyone.

[tonyjnjz]

no my man, thats whats good about ls1.com. It is almost like you have the right to speak your opinion no matter what it is. It is almost like ls1.com has a 1st amendment.

He did call people jap pole smokers, but you called him a faggot. You put yourself on his level

and i was jsut light heartly poking fun.....were all here to have a good time and learn as much about cars ( ls1 based cars in particular) as possible

[Eric1987]

so explain how thats not a true statement???? they ARE a turd stock and they DO need lots of hard work and money to make them fast as well as having immense tq steer .......so how am i wrong?....just because u dont like the facts im throwing at u?.......and btw eric i previously owned an 03 rsx-s so i think that qualifys me as having some jap experience first hand

Gotta remember they ARENT drag cars. Not at all. ALL hondas are meant for everything BUT drag. And you dont need hard work to make it fast. Just swap an H22 or B16-18 in a civic hatch and you got a fast ass gas saving lil cheap as fuck car to fix. Handles great and is fast as shit. For half the price of our muscle cars and cheaper in every way. Look at the Prelude SH for example. For the power it was given and being FWD it was an AMAZING car for the times. People just think with lack of HP it sucks. S2000 is an awesome car too. It'll smoke the camaro around a track. Not to mention its a stock NA 4 banger that can hit high 13's.

[hutch1999]

For half the price of our muscle cars and cheaper in every way.

Not picking sides but I dont think you can get a Honda to run as good as my car does for $4000 including the price of the car.

+ I bought my car 2 years ago for $8000 now you can find decent ls1s for 6k all day long

[tonyjnjz]

Gotta remember they ARENT drag cars. Not at all. ALL hondas are meant for everything BUT drag. And you dont need hard work to make it fast. Just swap an H22 or B16-18 in a civic hatch and you got a fast ass gas saving lil cheap as fuck car to fix. Handles great and is fast as shit. For half the price of our muscle cars and cheaper in every way. Look at the Prelude SH for example. For the power it was given and being FWD it was an AMAZING car for the times. People just think with lack of HP it sucks. S2000 is an awesome car too. It'll smoke the camaro around a track. Not to mention its a stock NA 4 banger that can hit high 13's.

i wont argue with any of this.......they are fun lil go-carts as there VERY easy to toss around.......i used to toss my rsx-s around all the time ....i found a big part of the reason it " felt " better at handling though was because it was just SLOWER without much tq.....i go through the same corners in an onramp to the expressway FASTER in my 99z than i did in the rsx when both were stock........comparing my car now to the rsx isnt even close in any way including cornering .....all those cars u mention are fun lil cars with a purpose......reliablity, gas milage, and a fun lil sporty car to throw around ..........and a lil side note.....i was leaving dennys...prolly 5 or 6 yrs ago in my 99z .....bunch of rice comes in as im about to leave.....they park behind me so i cant get out....hmmm...i rev the engine to get them to move....( prelude, integra, crx ) ....i hear them shout somthing about the engine swapped crx with all the stickers on it....i think whatever....he chases me out on to the main rd in this lil econobox in front of a good dozen of his buddys......we get an IMMEDIATE red light in front of every one.....ooooooo fun time for the show.......wasnt even close......2 cars immeditly off the line and i just pulled from there.....prolly 5 or 6 by 100mph ....i embarassed him.......from then on modded crx's do NOT impress me in a straight line on the street........my car was nearly stock and he really should of known better.........ill never understand ricer mentality as i would never go chasing down vipers, z06's etc in a stock z28 ...dosnt even make sense

[Eric1987]

Not picking sides but I dont think you can get a Honda to run as good as my car does for $4000 including the price of the car.

+ I bought my car 2 years ago for $8000 now you can find decent ls1s for 6k all day long

You can. Being that you do the labor yourself. Buy a hatch for 1k. An H22 for 900$ then you're set. And your car? I dont know anything about your car.

[tonyjnjz]

You can. Being that you do the labor yourself. Buy a hatch for 1k. An H22 for 900$ then you're set. And your car? I dont know anything about your car.

and i can strap a bunch of model rocket engines to my back too......for 1000 your getting a serious piece of shit......esp in honda as they retain there value quite well

[Eric1987]

Body wise you might get something that doesnt look great. But since you're taking the engine out who cares? And I have seen plenty of hatches go for 1k which are moderate condition.

[R_Yates69@Hotmail.com]

There is so much misinformation in this thread it's crazy. Let me tell you that I have owned both imports and domestics and have been on both sides of the fence for a long time.

That "kid" you raced obviously didn't have his car setup right. Around where I live there are some pretty respectable Honda builders. I've seen quite of few H22/K20/K24/B and D series turbo setups in a variety of Hondas.

I have a personal friend who had an H22 turbo setup in a '95 Civic hatchback. The car was running a GT30R turbo and was properly tuned with supported mods. This car did a 11.5 at the track and trapped 123-126mph. Keep in mind this car is stock internals running 16psi of boost.

Now, grats on you're win, but don't think that because you won against some punk kid in a poorly built H22 turbo hatch that you are the fastest around. There is always someone faster on both sides of the fence. An LS6 heads/cam with bolt ons is basically a C5 ZO6 with bolt ons and a tune, but in a heavier chassis. You have a respectable car, but there are plenty of street imports that would take the cake from you. Just something to be aware of.

I don't remember ever saying once that I did thing I had the fastest around? I told a kill story and everyone here started going on about how good a rice rocket is. I dont know why, I posted a kil story for ppl to read since there is a forum here directed towards kill stories. I didnt post it to have all these fools go on with their opinions and thoughts on life. I did it for people to read, say good job, what do u have or whatever, not to go on with their foolish rants. I'm well aware that ricers can be built to run 10 seconds, anything can be.

[JwMonE99]

I bought my 240 for $500 bucks and investing almost 3K into it....

[Eric1987]

I don't remember ever saying once that I did thing I had the fastest around? I told a kill story and everyone here started going on about how good a rice rocket is. I dont know why, I posted a kil story for ppl to read since there is a forum here directed towards kill stories. I didnt post it to have all these fools go on with their opinions and thoughts on life. I did it for people to read, say good job, what do u have or whatever, not to go on with their foolish rants. I'm well aware that ricers can be built to run 10 seconds, anything can be.

Well brotha thats the thing. Freedom of speech. You gotta expect shit talking or opinions you dont like to be thrown around on the internet. People can be whatever they want. They can be who they wish they could in real life.

[tonyjnjz]

I don't remember ever saying once that I did thing I had the fastest around? I told a kill story and everyone here started going on about how good a rice rocket is. I dont know why, I posted a kil story for ppl to read since there is a forum here directed towards kill stories. I didnt post it to have all these fools go on with their opinions and thoughts on life. I did it for people to read, say good job, what do u have or whatever, not to go on with their foolish rants. I'm well aware that ricers can be built to run 10 seconds, anything can be.

i appologize for thread jacking.........good kill !!!!

[adam3566]

I don't remember ever saying once that I did thing I had the fastest around? I told a kill story and everyone here started going on about how good a rice rocket is. I dont know why, I posted a kil story for ppl to read since there is a forum here directed towards kill stories. I didnt post it to have all these fools go on with their opinions and thoughts on life. I did it for people to read, say good job, what do u have or whatever, not to go on with their foolish rants. I'm well aware that ricers can be built to run 10 seconds, anything can be.

Who would have thought you can't post your opinion or facts on an internet forum. Damn that just ruined my day.

[Superluminal]

I bought my 240 for $500 bucks and investing almost 3K into it....

I bought both of my 240SXs for less than $1000 each. Both had straight bodies, were stock and full interior... certainly not shit-boxes. As they stand right now one is well into the 10s with a 4 cylinder and the other is knocking on 10s with an LS1.

240SX (RWD) - $800
SR20DET - $1200
GT35R setup complete - $3000
Tein Suspension - $600

I've done all the work, tuning, and maintenance myself. So with other misc. items that's a 10s street car for $6000, that handles well, looks good, and moves out very fast.

My '02 Camaro SS I bought for - $10000
The fucker handled like a boat (I'm into suspension), spent $2000 worth of sway bars, coils, struts, chassis bars, panhard bars, torque arms, etc. along with test and tuning of the suspension to get the car to handle somewhat decent.

I threw on some quality bolt ons (QTP headers, true duals, SLP lid, other minor stuff) - $1000 for that goodness

I went the nitrous route on this car and did a 150 dry shot with all the works. - $600 for that

Had to get that Moser 12 bolt - since I broke the 10 bolt - I think I paid $1200 for the rear kit.

After some test and tuning at the track I was getting mid 11s (this was a 6 speed car) and trapping in the mid 120mph range. $15k for all that.... in case you're counting.

I eventually got fed up with this car, since it was good at the track, but didn't satisfy me on the street, but I loved that engine under the hood... so I found a RWD chassis that would "satisfy me" to put this engine I liked so much into, hence my other 240SX.

Sorry for the big rant, I just can't stand when ignorant people don't respect others rides. I personally am at home talking to domestic or import builders. I've been exposed to both sides, and have owned and modded both sides. I understand that everyone has there preference in car choice, but don't bash other peoples choice of cars.

[shady milkman]

please explain why u belive this ? id love to know......and this isnt ihumphondas.com so be careful

:love:

:lmao: ihumphondas

[JwMonE99]

I bought both of my 240SXs for less than $1000 each. Both had straight bodies, were stock and full interior... certainly not shit-boxes. As they stand right now one is well into the 10s with a 4 cylinder and the other is knocking on 10s with an LS1.

240SX (RWD) - $800
SR20DET - $1200
GT35R setup complete - $3000
Tein Suspension - $600

I've done all the work, tuning, and maintenance myself. So with other misc. items that's a 10s street car for $6000, that handles well, looks good, and moves out very fast.

My '02 Camaro SS I bought for - $10000
The fucker handled like a boat (I'm into suspension), spent $2000 worth of sway bars, coils, struts, chassis bars, panhard bars, torque arms, etc. along with test and tuning of the suspension to get the car to handle somewhat decent.

I threw on some quality bolt ons (QTP headers, true duals, SLP lid, other minor stuff) - $1000 for that goodness

I went the nitrous route on this car and did a 150 dry shot with all the works. - $600 for that

Had to get that Moser 12 bolt - since I broke the 10 bolt - I think I paid $1200 for the rear kit.

After some test and tuning at the track I was getting mid 11s (this was a 6 speed car) and trapping in the mid 120mph range. $15k for all that.... in case you're counting.

I eventually got fed up with this car, since it was good at the track, but didn't satisfy me on the street, but I loved that engine under the hood... so I found a RWD chassis that would "satisfy me" to put this engine I liked so much into, hence my other 240SX.

Sorry for the big rant, I just can't stand when ignorant people don't respect others rides. I personally am at home talking to domestic or import builders. I've been exposed to both sides, and have owned and modded both sides. I understand that everyone has there preference in car choice, but don't bash other peoples choice of cars.


Yea I am still waiting on an S14 Silva front clip. other then that I have a straight body and full interior. With a blown KA duel cam lol. Will rebuild after the swap.
BTW where did u get the 12 bolt for that cheap or was it used?

[Eric1987]

I bought both of my 240SXs for less than $1000 each. Both had straight bodies, were stock and full interior... certainly not shit-boxes. As they stand right now one is well into the 10s with a 4 cylinder and the other is knocking on 10s with an LS1.

240SX (RWD) - $800
SR20DET - $1200
GT35R setup complete - $3000
Tein Suspension - $600

I've done all the work, tuning, and maintenance myself. So with other misc. items that's a 10s street car for $6000, that handles well, looks good, and moves out very fast.

My '02 Camaro SS I bought for - $10000
The fucker handled like a boat (I'm into suspension), spent $2000 worth of sway bars, coils, struts, chassis bars, panhard bars, torque arms, etc. along with test and tuning of the suspension to get the car to handle somewhat decent.

I threw on some quality bolt ons (QTP headers, true duals, SLP lid, other minor stuff) - $1000 for that goodness

I went the nitrous route on this car and did a 150 dry shot with all the works. - $600 for that

Had to get that Moser 12 bolt - since I broke the 10 bolt - I think I paid $1200 for the rear kit.

After some test and tuning at the track I was getting mid 11s (this was a 6 speed car) and trapping in the mid 120mph range. $15k for all that.... in case you're counting.

I eventually got fed up with this car, since it was good at the track, but didn't satisfy me on the street, but I loved that engine under the hood... so I found a RWD chassis that would "satisfy me" to put this engine I liked so much into, hence my other 240SX.

Sorry for the big rant, I just can't stand when ignorant people don't respect others rides. I personally am at home talking to domestic or import builders. I've been exposed to both sides, and have owned and modded both sides. I understand that everyone has there preference in car choice, but don't bash other peoples choice of cars.

QFT. I agree completely. I think its so stupid to hate on someone because they own an import or domestic. Both have their ups and downs.

[tonyjnjz]

QFT. I agree completely. I think its so stupid to hate on someone because they own an import or domestic. Both have their ups and downs.

nobodys hating on somONE......im just not a fan of tq steer prone fwd econoboxes........on a side note those 240s with ls1's are siiiiiiick.......how much fabricating was involved in that ??? t-56 as well? it mate right up to your existing rear end?

[Superluminal]

nobodys hating on somONE......im just not a fan of tq steer prone fwd econoboxes........on a side note those 240s with ls1's are siiiiiiick.......how much fabricating was involved in that ??? t-56 as well? it mate right up to your existing rear end?

To tell you the truth. It was a very straightforward swap. I actually bought a premade mount kit. All it entailed was a custom transmission mount, and modified stock 240SX mounts. You also need to do some minor notching to the front crossmember and regardless of what LSX motor you go with, only the GTO oil pan clears the front swaybar. Other than that it's just wire up and go.

There are a few companies that make headers for 240SX chassis. I personally went with Hinson headers. I made a custom Y pipe to a single exhaust out (believe it or not - not the typical 240 fart can). Custom Home Depot (ABS Plastic - hard black PVC) cold air intake (plastic stays cooler than aluminum). Some minor free mods.

With the tune the car put out 355rwhp with matching torque. In a chassis that weighs 2600lbs. fully loaded (even with power everything), it's quite a fun car to drive. Stock rear ends on these cars are good for 500+rwhp and it's already a 4.083 final drive, so that's go to go. Throw some drag radials on it and you'll net times that I have in my sig with a bolt on LS1.

Also as a side note, the factory 4 cylinder has an iron block so it's quite heavy. The LS1 motor/transmission combo I put in only added 20lbs. over the stock motor weight. The car handles fantastic thanks to that V8 aluminum block.

[big hammer]

LOL @ hondas

[Superluminal]

LOL @ hondas

... well.... most Hondas. There are a couple out there that even I wouldn't touch.

[big hammer]

... well.... most Hondas. There are a couple out there that even I wouldn't touch.

fast yes, but who cares. it's still a honda. just put a big block in a radio flyer it's the same thing.

plus 99% of hondas are just rice boys who think they're the best thing out there. i would say the most annoying thing about hondas is the false sense of vast superiority their owners have.

[Superluminal]

fast yes, but who cares. it's still a honda. just put a big block in a radio flyer it's the same thing.

plus 99% of hondas are just rice boys who think they're the best thing out there. i would say the most annoying thing about hondas is the false sense of vast superiority their owners have.

I usually see the same thing from the domestic side of the fence. Problem is the majority of Honda owners are teenagers who want to be fast, but have no cash to do it. There lies your problem unforutnetly.

Like I said I agree with you on most owners, but I've seen a couple that are done right and look nice. Sure they my not be the fastest thing and as "usable" as a RWD platform, but to each their own. That 1% actually don't care about who is faster and are cool with anyone. Finding these Honda owners is like finding a diamond in a rough. I have a couple friends that own respectable Hondas. These guys have cars that aren't lowered to the pavement, don't have rediculous wheels or an exhaust that sounds a weed-wacker. They are tastefully modded, look very presentable, and have a respectable engine setup under the hood, and are more than welcome to any of the domestic meets.

[hutch1999]

I usually see the same thing from the domestic side of the fence.


I bet your talking about the cocky stang owners, Im around a few that think their near stock 02 GTs with exhaust are unstoppable. They give no respect to anything else.

[big hammer]

I bet your talking about the cocky stang owners, Im around a few that think their near stock 02 GTs with exhaust are unstoppable. They give no respect to anything else.

yeah the mustang attitude is similar and unwarranted to the honda attitude.

[Superluminal]

yeah the mustang attitude is similar and unwarranted to the honda attitude.

Unfortunetly, we are in total agreement here.

[Eric1987]

nobodys hating on somONE......im just not a fan of tq steer prone fwd econoboxes........on a side note those 240s with ls1's are siiiiiiick.......how much fabricating was involved in that ??? t-56 as well? it mate right up to your existing rear end?

Econoboxes? Since when is a Prelude an econobox? Torque steer? Heard of ATTS?

[Wesman]

Econoboxes? Since when is a Prelude an econobox? Torque steer? Heard of ATTS?

Its a FWD Honda with a 4 banger. Its a damn econo car, what would you call it??

[hutch1999]

WESMAN is in the motha fuckin house, honda humpers watch out lol

[tonyjnjz]

Econoboxes? Since when is a Prelude an econobox? Torque steer? Heard of ATTS?

heard of what? no i havnt i drive a REAL car ......preludes are slow

[Superluminal]

heard of what? no i havnt i drive a REAL car ......preludes are slow

Yep, they weigh over 3000lbs. and the top model only came with 200hp (H22). Not a good recipe for performance. I generally see them running in the 15s at the track with bolt ons and stuff.

[Wesman]

WESMAN is in the motha fuckin house, honda humpers watch out lol

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[JwMonE99]

I can only think of 2 cars that honda as made to go "fast"
S2K and NSX the rest are trully eco boxes.
Who the fuck makes a "sports" car from FWD?

[Superluminal]

I can only think of 2 cars that honda as made to go "fast"
S2K and NSX the rest are trully eco boxes.
Who the fuck makes a "sports" car from FWD?

I've driven both of them. The S2K is a fantastic handling car, even in stock form. The problem with this car is it sucks for daily driving because it makes all of its 240hp at the very top. So when driving normal on the street you're winding the motor out to 5k+ just to get moving. Basically, if you're racing the car around a course it will impress, when you're not racing and just driving you will be disappointed.

The NSX is one of the best car's I've driven. I drove a bolt ons one with suspension work. That car was amazing to drive. It nailed the corners and hit the apexes perfectly. The steering was just fantastic. The car felt planted and rigid around the track. Since it had a V6 over the rear wheels, the traction and torque was there. It was quite usable on the street, not to mention the car looks like sex on wheels. This car is definately not a very fast car, but in a car like this, you get what I like to call "the total package". Everything works so well together on and off the street. That being said, I do believe the car is overpriced.

Everything else made my Honda was FWD nonsense for the daily commuter. However, anything can be made fast.

[JwMonE99]

True anything can be made fast, but some shouldnt not be attempted even if they succeed.

[adam3566]

I've driven both of them. The S2K is a fantastic handling car, even in stock form. The problem with this car is it sucks for daily driving because it makes all of its 240hp at the very top. So when driving normal on the street you're winding the motor out to 5k+ just to get moving. Basically, if you're racing the car around a course it will impress, when you're not racing and just driving you will be disappointed.

The NSX is one of the best car's I've driven. I drove a bolt ons one with suspension work. That car was amazing to drive. It nailed the corners and hit the apexes perfectly. The steering was just fantastic. The car felt planted and rigid around the track. Since it had a V6 over the rear wheels, the traction and torque was there. It was quite usable on the street, not to mention the car looks like sex on wheels. This car is definately not a very fast car, but in a car like this, you get what I like to call "the total package". Everything works so well together on and off the street. That being said, I do believe the car is overpriced.

Everything else made my Honda was FWD nonsense for the daily commuter. However, anything can be made fast.

Too bad the NSX is ridiculously overpriced. 90K plus for a slow ass car that has suspension work. Sorry just not impressed. For that kinda money you can get a lot better of vehicle that will not only handle better, but have way more power. S2k is even overpriced personally. 35k for a mid to low 14 second car that handles decently. No thanks, I will pass again on both. But in the end I would take the S2k over the NSX. Purely because I could not justify or or even want to spend that kinda money on a car of that low caliber.

[Superluminal]

Too bad the NSX is ridiculously overpriced. 90K plus for a slow ass car that has suspension work. Sorry just not impressed. For that kinda money you can get a lot better of vehicle that will not only handle better, but have way more power. S2k is even overpriced personally. 35k for a mid to low 14 second car that handles decently. No thanks, I will pass again on both. But in the end I would take the S2k over the NSX. Purely because I could not justify or or even want to spend that kinda money on a car of that low caliber.

I agree, you'd be a fool to spend $90k for an NSX, could have saved a bit more and gotten yourself a ZR1, which decimates the NSX. However, now days you can pick up a nice used NSX for $30k. SO under those circumstances it's a decent buy.... but not new.

[BLACKNIGHT03Z06]

Nice kill.

Ricers are stupid lol, they always end up losing.

Come on man not all drivers of cars made in Japan are driven by "Ricer Mentallity" owners. They have made incredible advances in performance technology and have made us die hard "Muscle Heads" move forward to keep up. Let's take one car comparo. The Nissan GT-R MSRP's for around $80k which is on par with a loaded '08 Z06. But on my own sight "ZO6Vette.com" they always run the car comapro's on the GT-R verses the new ZR1 which MSRP's at $120 plus. I mean the ZR1 is $40k more right off the bat. I love both cars and offered a local Nissar Dealer MSRP for the GT-R but they told me that they were selling to the highest bidder. Screw that. I refuse to be raped by delers. I bought another used C5Z06 w/4.2K miles and all the bolt-ons and an agressive cam. When I add the Maggie I will toast E55AMG's, M5's, SRT10's, C6Z06's, and stock ZR1's. I will have less tha $40K in the car when complete but I still don't trash talk the competition. There are a lot of incredible cars out there.:soapbox: Some of us enjoy them all. Especially when I can view them from the rear view mirror:sword:

[Superluminal]

Come on man not all drivers of cars made in Japan are driven by "Ricer Mentallity" owners. They have made incredible advances in performance technology and have made us die hard "Muscle Heads" move forward to keep up. Let's take one car comparo. The Nissan GT-R MSRP's for around $80k which is on par with a loaded '08 Z06. But on my own sight "ZO6Vette.com" they always run the car comapro's on the GT-R verses the new ZR1 which MSRP's at $120 plus. I mean the ZR1 is $40k more right off the bat. I love both cars and offered a local Nissar Dealer MSRP for the GT-R but they told me that they were selling to the highest bidder. Screw that. I refuse to be raped by delers. I bought another used C5Z06 w/4.2K miles and all the bolt-ons and an agressive cam. When I add the Maggie I will toast E55AMG's, M5's, SRT10's, C6Z06's, and stock ZR1's. I will have less tha $40K in the car when complete but I still don't trask talk the competition. There are a lot of incredible cars out there.:soapbox: Some of us enjoy them all espeially when I can view them from the rear view mirror:sword:

+1

These are the domestic owners I like to hang around.

[BLACKNIGHT03Z06]

+1

These are the domestic owners I like to hang around.

Thanks man. I just get so sick of the trash talk that has no merrit. There are just as many V6 Mustangs and Comaros around here with SVT and SS badges as there are Hondas with Fart Cans. However some of the best races that I have had were with a Civic Hatch with a huge turbo and a very nice body kit and interior and a 240SX with basically the same. If you take the time to look past the Badge on the rear and look at the tire/wheel combo, the quality of the body kit, the stability of the exhaust, and the huge inter cooler up front if you get a chance to see it, you can eliminate the posers without even throwing a rev.

[adam3566]

Come on man not all drivers of cars made in Japan are driven by "Ricer Mentallity" owners. They have made incredible advances in performance technology and have made us die hard "Muscle Heads" move forward to keep up. Let's take one car comparo. The Nissan GT-R MSRP's for around $80k which is on par with a loaded '08 Z06. But on my own sight "ZO6Vette.com" they always run the car comapro's on the GT-R verses the new ZR1 which MSRP's at $120 plus. I mean the ZR1 is $40k more right off the bat. I love both cars and offered a local Nissar Dealer MSRP for the GT-R but they told me that they were selling to the highest bidder. Screw that. I refuse to be raped by delers. I bought another used C5Z06 w/4.2K miles and all the bolt-ons and an agressive cam. When I add the Maggie I will toast E55AMG's, M5's, SRT10's, C6Z06's, and stock ZR1's. I will have less tha $40K in the car when complete but I still don't trash talk the competition. There are a lot of incredible cars out there.:soapbox: Some of us enjoy them all. Especially when I can view them from the rear view mirror:sword:

Too bad that GT-R has one of the worst transmission put in it. If they put a 6 speed standard in it, it would have been a lot more bullet proof. 20k for a new transmission and not to mention trying to find a dealership to work on it. The car itself is decent, but the transmission is terrible!

[tonyjnjz]

Too bad that GT-R has one of the worst transmission put in it. If they put a 6 speed standard in it, it would have been a lot more bullet proof. 20k for a new transmission and not to mention trying to find a dealership to work on it. The car itself is decent, but the transmission is terrible!

man tranny, awd, 500 horse, 3800lbs............that 1st 2nd shift wouldnt cause any shock to the drivetrain...lol

[adam3566]

man tranny, awd, 500 horse, 3800lbs............that 1st 2nd shift wouldnt cause any shock to the drivetrain...lol

Not even close. Look at mercedes AMG division or the bmw m6. Most of the AMG cars are pigs! They take a beating like no other and don't blow out after 10-15 launches like that p.o.s nissan does.

[big hammer]

lol @ hondas. they R silly

[tonyjnjz]

Not even close. Look at mercedes AMG division or the bmw m6. Most of the AMG cars are pigs! They take a beating like no other and don't blow out after 10-15 launches like that p.o.s nissan does.

there rear wheel drive.........NOT all wheel drive

[Wesman]

Not even close. Look at mercedes AMG division or the bmw m6. Most of the AMG cars are pigs! They take a beating like no other and don't blow out after 10-15 launches like that p.o.s nissan does.

German Engineering > Japanese "Engineering"

[Superluminal]

Too bad that GT-R has one of the worst transmission put in it. If they put a 6 speed standard in it, it would have been a lot more bullet proof. 20k for a new transmission and not to mention trying to find a dealership to work on it. The car itself is decent, but the transmission is terrible!

But it wouldn't have been as fast, since the average driver can't launch right or shift fast. However, it would have been a much better car if they'd kept it simple with a 6 speed. If they did that, I would see the GTR as a decent car, regardless of how much slower it is with the 6 speed.

[adam3566]

there rear wheel drive.........NOT all wheel drive

Wow thank you for informing me of that. Never knew mercedes wasn't awd. God your an dumbass. If you have nothing to imput or anything or usefull knowlodge shut it. Face the facts its a p.o.s transmission and that's what I was stating.

[adam3566]

German Engineering > Japanese "Engineering"

If they would have put a standard 6 speed in it, it would have been an awesome car. But they decided to cheapen it up and put a p.o.s in it. Makes themselves look bad if you ask me. Paying 80k and not being able to hammer on it when I want to? No thanks.

[adam3566]

man tranny, awd, 500 horse, 3800lbs............that 1st 2nd shift wouldnt cause any shock to the drivetrain...lol

Can't believe no one has stated this is either. Porsche is awd and plenty of ponies. One of the, if not the best transmissions around. 6 speed manual or automatic they are both awesome in that car.

[Wesman]

If they would have put a standard 6 speed in it, it would have been an awesome car. But they decided to cheapen it up and put a p.o.s in it. Makes themselves look bad if you ask me. Paying 80k and not being able to hammer on it when I want to? No thanks.

The best six speed transmission in the world can't fix ugly or fat.

And the GTR is both very ugly and very fat, at a portly 4,000lbs and with a face only the japanese could love. Real race bred cars like Porsche 911, Dodge Viper, and Corvette are hundreds of pounds less, and for obvious reasons.

The GTR is a Grand Touring car, nothing more.

[BLACKNIGHT03Z06]

:hmm:OK maybe I should have used the Supra Twin Turbo as my example. I'm a Z06 owner man. As stated i'm on my third one after the third break on the POS differential on my '01 WS6. Let's see it weighs 3,800lbs. or so with 350HP and a freakin 6 cylinder 10 bolt from the factory. Didn't expect to have to spend 3-5k on a differential for a bolt-ons only LS1 at an MSRP of 32,000. How did the freakin over weight over priced German autos get in this post. Those posts were not by you but i'm just summarizing. And lastly the allmighty Carrera-4-S or GT2 at a similar MSRP will get raped by the new ZR1. Now I sound like a German hater. If you can afford it then buy it and build it and run what you brung and always give a thumbs up win or lose. My only point is that not all drivers of Japanese made auto's are ricers:drama:

[Eric1987]

Did you say the camaro weighs 3800? Not even close unless you're referring to the 2010.

[Superluminal]

If they would have put a standard 6 speed in it, it would have been an awesome car. But they decided to cheapen it up and put a p.o.s in it. Makes themselves look bad if you ask me. Paying 80k and not being able to hammer on it when I want to? No thanks.

Actually, they gave it a nanny shifter so it would be faster. With a six speed it wouldn't be in Z06 territory anymore since driver skill comes into play. However, with the 6 speed it would be a better and more fun car to drive.